Southampton's Harbour House to be turned into Playhouse Gentlemen’s Club

Romsey Advertiser: Harbour House. Harbour House.

An historic building on Southampton’s waterfront will soon be home to lap dancing and strip shows.

Blackjack tables will be replaced by dancing poles after city council planners gave permission to turn the Edwardian-era Harbour House into a sexual entertainment venue called the Playhouse Gentlemen’s Club.

Fareham businessman Chris Knight’s plans have been attacked by residents of neighbouring streets who have labelled them “appalling” and claim they will turn the area into a “sleazy downmarket destination”. The interior of the building in Town Quay, which was built in 1910 and has listed status, will now be converted for its new use.

The building was previously used as Maxims Casino, while a nightclub, Club Rosso, also operated on its ground floor.

But both closed last year.

Two stages will be put in, with two poles installed on one and one on the other.

As it has been granted a sexual entertainment venue licence, it will offer lap dancing, pole dancing and strip shows.

Seven full-time staff and 48 part-time workers will be employed at the venue, which will be open from midday to 6am every day of the week and also feature a bar. But residents of the neighbouring area have reacted with anger to the news.

Sue Ridley, of The Greenwich, said: “We are appalled by this turn of events. Where is it going to stop? Are we going to turn Southampton into some sleazy downmarket destination?

“What sort of impressions will we give to the hundreds of tourists who disembark to visit the historic area of Town Quay, the QE2 Mile and SeaCity Museum? It’s a beautiful old building and it’s such a shame that we haven’t been able to do something better with it. I think it will make the whole environment in this area quite seedy, and it’s going to have a big impact.”

Neighbour Hilary Thompson said residents had had a multitude of night-time problems when Maxims casino and Club Rosso were open.

She said: “This is like a continuing nightmare for residents.

“The night time economy in Southampton is centred around Bedford Place, so the police do not have the resources to police this location separately, or properly. It’s a disaster for the area.”

As the property already has a premises licence for alcohol, the plans will not have to go before the council’s licensing committee for final approval. The only consultee able to object formally was Hampshire Constabulary, which did not raise any concerns.

John Noon, one of the area’s representatives on the city council, said: “I don’t think it’s the best place for that kind of entertainment.”

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11:17am Thu 14 Mar 13

solomum says...

If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.
If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man. solomum
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11:18am Thu 14 Mar 13

jade25 says...

What a shame this lovely historic building is being turnt into something for naked women!! I wonder what it was used for when first built, I'm sure it wasnt a lap dancing club!
What a shame this lovely historic building is being turnt into something for naked women!! I wonder what it was used for when first built, I'm sure it wasnt a lap dancing club! jade25
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11:24am Thu 14 Mar 13

Block41row0sfc says...

Men have needs. Women need work.
Men have needs. Women need work. Block41row0sfc
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11:31am Thu 14 Mar 13

sfcdan1992 says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
Men have needs. Women need work.
Haha quality
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: Men have needs. Women need work.[/p][/quote]Haha quality sfcdan1992
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11:32am Thu 14 Mar 13

southy says...

jade25 wrote:
What a shame this lovely historic building is being turnt into something for naked women!! I wonder what it was used for when first built, I'm sure it wasnt a lap dancing club!
The clue is in the name of the building
[quote][p][bold]jade25[/bold] wrote: What a shame this lovely historic building is being turnt into something for naked women!! I wonder what it was used for when first built, I'm sure it wasnt a lap dancing club![/p][/quote]The clue is in the name of the building southy
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11:34am Thu 14 Mar 13

southy says...

If Maxims Casino was not able to make it, how do they expect a super casino to make it
If Maxims Casino was not able to make it, how do they expect a super casino to make it southy
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11:44am Thu 14 Mar 13

jade25 says...

'Southy' - A Harbour House could be used for anything!
'Southy' - A Harbour House could be used for anything! jade25
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11:46am Thu 14 Mar 13

minnie64 says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
Men have needs. Women need work.
That made me chuckle
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: Men have needs. Women need work.[/p][/quote]That made me chuckle minnie64
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11:53am Thu 14 Mar 13

Torchie1 says...

solomum wrote:
If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.
Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.[/p][/quote]Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses. Torchie1
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11:56am Thu 14 Mar 13

solomum says...

Torchie1 wrote:
solomum wrote:
If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.
Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.
Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.[/p][/quote]Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.[/p][/quote]Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal. solomum
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12:08pm Thu 14 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

Once again Southampton outdoes the rest of the country in terms of sheer downright tackiness.
Once again Southampton outdoes the rest of the country in terms of sheer downright tackiness. kingnotail
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12:09pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ".
This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ". Proud from LIVERPOOL
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12:11pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Scott_OOOSH says...

What's the problem?! It won't look any different from the outside, so it will still look 'beautiful'!
You don't have to go inside!
And surely this is better than the space just staying empty and being wasted?
What's the problem?! It won't look any different from the outside, so it will still look 'beautiful'! You don't have to go inside! And surely this is better than the space just staying empty and being wasted? Scott_OOOSH
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12:15pm Thu 14 Mar 13

localnews says...

solomum wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
solomum wrote:
If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.
Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.
Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.
Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.[/p][/quote]Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.[/p][/quote]Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.[/p][/quote]Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers localnews
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12:19pm Thu 14 Mar 13

southy says...

jade25 wrote:
'Southy' - A Harbour House could be used for anything!
Harbour Masters Offices.
The building that is there now, is the second Harbour House to stand on that spot, the first one was built when it was just small jetty and ships use to moor in the channel, and used small boats to get goods on and off shore
[quote][p][bold]jade25[/bold] wrote: 'Southy' - A Harbour House could be used for anything![/p][/quote]Harbour Masters Offices. The building that is there now, is the second Harbour House to stand on that spot, the first one was built when it was just small jetty and ships use to moor in the channel, and used small boats to get goods on and off shore southy
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12:21pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Block41row0sfc says...

kingnotail wrote:
Once again Southampton outdoes the rest of the country in terms of sheer downright tackiness.
Have you never been to blackpool
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: Once again Southampton outdoes the rest of the country in terms of sheer downright tackiness.[/p][/quote]Have you never been to blackpool Block41row0sfc
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12:23pm Thu 14 Mar 13

cliffwalker says...

It's an outrage that this building is being used for this purpose. It was bad enough that it was used for gambling but this is plumbing the depths. Surely there are other less iconic places that could host a sexual entertainment venue.
It's an outrage that this building is being used for this purpose. It was bad enough that it was used for gambling but this is plumbing the depths. Surely there are other less iconic places that could host a sexual entertainment venue. cliffwalker
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12:29pm Thu 14 Mar 13

weebee says...

isn’t Southampton trying to be the 2017`s UK City of Culture?
isn’t Southampton trying to be the 2017`s UK City of Culture? weebee
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12:32pm Thu 14 Mar 13

localnews says...

cliffwalker wrote:
It's an outrage that this building is being used for this purpose. It was bad enough that it was used for gambling but this is plumbing the depths. Surely there are other less iconic places that could host a sexual entertainment venue.
Could use the sea city museum,be more going down than just the titanic
[quote][p][bold]cliffwalker[/bold] wrote: It's an outrage that this building is being used for this purpose. It was bad enough that it was used for gambling but this is plumbing the depths. Surely there are other less iconic places that could host a sexual entertainment venue.[/p][/quote]Could use the sea city museum,be more going down than just the titanic localnews
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12:33pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Block41row0sfc says...

Don't worry people there will be a happy ending.
Don't worry people there will be a happy ending. Block41row0sfc
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12:35pm Thu 14 Mar 13

solomum says...

localnews wrote:
solomum wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
solomum wrote:
If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.
Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.
Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.
Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers
Speaks volumes about the kind of women that you know then. :-)
[quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.[/p][/quote]Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.[/p][/quote]Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.[/p][/quote]Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers[/p][/quote]Speaks volumes about the kind of women that you know then. :-) solomum
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12:37pm Thu 14 Mar 13

philiprhampton says...

Is it the main building as shown lit up !!!!! To be used???? it's more likely to be the extension behind.
Is it the main building as shown lit up !!!!! To be used???? it's more likely to be the extension behind. philiprhampton
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12:43pm Thu 14 Mar 13

loosehead says...

So an adults club in Woolston is wrong but a strip club in an historic building is okay?
Isn't or wasn't there a pole dancing club opposite Holy Rood Church?
I'm not opposed to these type of places but surely a better use could be found for this building?
Who knows Red Funnel ticket & waiting area?
So an adults club in Woolston is wrong but a strip club in an historic building is okay? Isn't or wasn't there a pole dancing club opposite Holy Rood Church? I'm not opposed to these type of places but surely a better use could be found for this building? Who knows Red Funnel ticket & waiting area? loosehead
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12:45pm Thu 14 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

Block41row0sfc wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Once again Southampton outdoes the rest of the country in terms of sheer downright tackiness.
Have you never been to blackpool
Yep. At least there's actually stuff to do. And a beach. Not as sh1t as Southampton.
[quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: Once again Southampton outdoes the rest of the country in terms of sheer downright tackiness.[/p][/quote]Have you never been to blackpool[/p][/quote]Yep. At least there's actually stuff to do. And a beach. Not as sh1t as Southampton. kingnotail
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12:47pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Ddobsy says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ".
I think the city of culture bosses are going to love having somewhere to relax after touring Southampton. Plus they can use the cash from their brown bags to pay for dances.
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ".[/p][/quote]I think the city of culture bosses are going to love having somewhere to relax after touring Southampton. Plus they can use the cash from their brown bags to pay for dances. Ddobsy
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12:48pm Thu 14 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ".
A city totally lacking on so many levels, and the best anyone can come up with is Strip Clubs and Casinos.
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ".[/p][/quote]A city totally lacking on so many levels, and the best anyone can come up with is Strip Clubs and Casinos. kingnotail
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12:53pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Beer Monster says...

Scott_OOOSH wrote:
What's the problem?! It won't look any different from the outside, so it will still look 'beautiful'!
You don't have to go inside!
And surely this is better than the space just staying empty and being wasted?
My sentiments exactly - this sort of thing goes on all over the place (just up the road in For Your Eyes Only, for example), does it hurt anyone? Does it provide employment? etc

While we're at it, could we reopen a bar on Town Quay? They were always handy for checking ferry arrivals
[quote][p][bold]Scott_OOOSH[/bold] wrote: What's the problem?! It won't look any different from the outside, so it will still look 'beautiful'! You don't have to go inside! And surely this is better than the space just staying empty and being wasted?[/p][/quote]My sentiments exactly - this sort of thing goes on all over the place (just up the road in For Your Eyes Only, for example), does it hurt anyone? Does it provide employment? etc While we're at it, could we reopen a bar on Town Quay? They were always handy for checking ferry arrivals Beer Monster
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12:54pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Block41row0sfc says...

kingnotail wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
Once again Southampton outdoes the rest of the country in terms of sheer downright tackiness.
Have you never been to blackpool
Yep. At least there's actually stuff to do. And a beach. Not as sh1t as Southampton.
Well there trying here you will be able to get noshed off now
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: Once again Southampton outdoes the rest of the country in terms of sheer downright tackiness.[/p][/quote]Have you never been to blackpool[/p][/quote]Yep. At least there's actually stuff to do. And a beach. Not as sh1t as Southampton.[/p][/quote]Well there trying here you will be able to get noshed off now Block41row0sfc
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1:07pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Subject48 says...

Its a strip club not a brother. Why do women have such issues with strip clubs?

Dont work there, but dont you dare look down on someone who chooses to make their money in this way.

After all, the "celebs" strip in movies/papers for everyone to see to make money and the young generations have been brainwashed by heat magazines, jeremy kyle & holloak street into making relationships into some sort of game playing drama....


As someone said men have needs and a certain way of thinking and women need jobs too.
Its a strip club not a brother. Why do women have such issues with strip clubs? Dont work there, but dont you dare look down on someone who chooses to make their money in this way. After all, the "celebs" strip in movies/papers for everyone to see to make money and the young generations have been brainwashed by heat magazines, jeremy kyle & holloak street into making relationships into some sort of game playing drama.... As someone said men have needs and a certain way of thinking and women need jobs too. Subject48
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1:13pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

Hate to say it, but I agree with Southy. If this casino can't make money, then how the hell is the proposed Supercasino a mere 200 yards away going to make tonnes of cash? Also, this is not good for the future of the city. Think about it, being on the ferry terminal this could well be some people's first impressions of the city. A strip club and a massive casino. What a place to bring the family!
I can't wait for the City of Culture awards, I really can't. I'd go if I could, just to **** myself laughing at our city chief's saying we should win.
There's enough places like this in Southampton anyway
Hate to say it, but I agree with Southy. If this casino can't make money, then how the hell is the proposed Supercasino a mere 200 yards away going to make tonnes of cash? Also, this is not good for the future of the city. Think about it, being on the ferry terminal this could well be some people's first impressions of the city. A strip club and a massive casino. What a place to bring the family! I can't wait for the City of Culture awards, I really can't. I'd go if I could, just to **** myself laughing at our city chief's saying we should win. There's enough places like this in Southampton anyway 03alpe01
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1:19pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?
Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there? 03alpe01
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1:23pm Thu 14 Mar 13

SO50 Saint says...

Some of the themes are gonna be wet T-Shirt competitions between dancers.

Each to their own with this place I say i'm just pleased they got rid of that awful place that is Club Russo. Suppose you could go to Margheritas for a bite to eat and then to the Strip club if you fancied it
Some of the themes are gonna be wet T-Shirt competitions between dancers. Each to their own with this place I say i'm just pleased they got rid of that awful place that is Club Russo. Suppose you could go to Margheritas for a bite to eat and then to the Strip club if you fancied it SO50 Saint
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1:26pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

Or just walk up the road to For Your Eyes Only
Or just walk up the road to For Your Eyes Only 03alpe01
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1:41pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Linesman says...

This is where Royston Smith should have sited the Maritime Museum.

The building has a maritime history, and is adjacent to the docks, quite convenient for passengers coming ashore from visiting cruise ships.

My betting is that it would have cost considerably less than what he landed the city with.
This is where Royston Smith should have sited the Maritime Museum. The building has a maritime history, and is adjacent to the docks, quite convenient for passengers coming ashore from visiting cruise ships. My betting is that it would have cost considerably less than what he landed the city with. Linesman
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1:44pm Thu 14 Mar 13

kingkong 1 says...

I suppose that the Bargate will be the next place to be taken over for a strip
joint , is there no pride left in that city.SHAME
I suppose that the Bargate will be the next place to be taken over for a strip joint , is there no pride left in that city.SHAME kingkong 1
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1:49pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Torchie1 says...

solomum wrote:
localnews wrote:
solomum wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
solomum wrote:
If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.
Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.
Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.
Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers
Speaks volumes about the kind of women that you know then. :-)
In years gone by there were demonstrations by women against light hearted competitions like 'Miss England' and 'Miss World'. Whilst I hate to generalise, the demonstrators were the hairy armpit, anti make-up, chubby clog wearers who would never make the line up if their life depended on it. You are condemning the women who make their living in clubs like this, you aren't forced to watch and if your partner wants to visit, you should look closer to to home for the reason.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.[/p][/quote]Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.[/p][/quote]Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.[/p][/quote]Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers[/p][/quote]Speaks volumes about the kind of women that you know then. :-)[/p][/quote]In years gone by there were demonstrations by women against light hearted competitions like 'Miss England' and 'Miss World'. Whilst I hate to generalise, the demonstrators were the hairy armpit, anti make-up, chubby clog wearers who would never make the line up if their life depended on it. You are condemning the women who make their living in clubs like this, you aren't forced to watch and if your partner wants to visit, you should look closer to to home for the reason. Torchie1
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1:54pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

Nope, the Council, combined with the Developers have ruined it. Statistically we have the fattest kids in Hampshire, so plans for a new McDonalds come up. We've had a Titanic Museum for years, in the Maritime Museum, only for the Council to spend £5 million of the £15 million on the Sea City Museum, whilst making the main exhibit temporary. Portsmouth has done brilliantly having a shopping centre on the Waterfront, with a nice view. As soon as Southampton looked like doing something similar in Ocean Village hey guess what? It was knocked down for flats. Yippee!!! Now a casino on the Waterfront has shut, and a Supercasinio will open up, as well as a stripclub. Goody! The Snow Dome was stopped because it was on the Waterfront where apparently there "isnt enough water based things to do on the Waterfront" and then this happens! A decent Watermark scheme was replaced with a "luxury" cinema and more flipping restaurants.
And don't even get me started on the ice rink that we were promised some 25 years ago...
Nope, the Council, combined with the Developers have ruined it. Statistically we have the fattest kids in Hampshire, so plans for a new McDonalds come up. We've had a Titanic Museum for years, in the Maritime Museum, only for the Council to spend £5 million of the £15 million on the Sea City Museum, whilst making the main exhibit temporary. Portsmouth has done brilliantly having a shopping centre on the Waterfront, with a nice view. As soon as Southampton looked like doing something similar in Ocean Village hey guess what? It was knocked down for flats. Yippee!!! Now a casino on the Waterfront has shut, and a Supercasinio will open up, as well as a stripclub. Goody! The Snow Dome was stopped because it was on the Waterfront where apparently there "isnt enough water based things to do on the Waterfront" and then this happens! A decent Watermark scheme was replaced with a "luxury" cinema and more flipping restaurants. And don't even get me started on the ice rink that we were promised some 25 years ago... 03alpe01
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2:01pm Thu 14 Mar 13

bethkt says...

Disgusting!! Do we really need another one?!? Hopefully no Pervy old men go so it goes out of buisness ASAP!!!
Disgusting!! Do we really need another one?!? Hopefully no Pervy old men go so it goes out of buisness ASAP!!! bethkt
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2:07pm Thu 14 Mar 13

southy says...

Linesman wrote:
This is where Royston Smith should have sited the Maritime Museum.

The building has a maritime history, and is adjacent to the docks, quite convenient for passengers coming ashore from visiting cruise ships.

My betting is that it would have cost considerably less than what he landed the city with.
Agreed Lines
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: This is where Royston Smith should have sited the Maritime Museum. The building has a maritime history, and is adjacent to the docks, quite convenient for passengers coming ashore from visiting cruise ships. My betting is that it would have cost considerably less than what he landed the city with.[/p][/quote]Agreed Lines southy
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2:12pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Lone Ranger. says...

Its quite simple really ........ If you dont like strip clubs or pole dancing then dont go ....... You do have freedom of choice.
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Incidently there has been strip club(s) in Southampton for 20 years that i know of.
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I thought that the people wanted more entertainment in Southampton ........ Or do they want ...... as usual ... just what suits them
Its quite simple really ........ If you dont like strip clubs or pole dancing then dont go ....... You do have freedom of choice. . Incidently there has been strip club(s) in Southampton for 20 years that i know of. . I thought that the people wanted more entertainment in Southampton ........ Or do they want ...... as usual ... just what suits them Lone Ranger.
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2:26pm Thu 14 Mar 13

AlanM1952 says...

Hopefully Red Funnel will put on some extra Red Jets to get us to and from Cowes for this new attraction. Maybe they will offer a combined ticket as it's right next to their terminal.
Hopefully Red Funnel will put on some extra Red Jets to get us to and from Cowes for this new attraction. Maybe they will offer a combined ticket as it's right next to their terminal. AlanM1952
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2:26pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Markmag says...

Didn't Zen just up the road used to be a run down pub which had strippers dancing on the tables?

Not sure there's enough of a market for this - didn't the strip club at leisure world close down recently?

It says a lot for the economy when even strip clubs and casinos are in decline...
Didn't Zen just up the road used to be a run down pub which had strippers dancing on the tables? Not sure there's enough of a market for this - didn't the strip club at leisure world close down recently? It says a lot for the economy when even strip clubs and casinos are in decline... Markmag
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2:32pm Thu 14 Mar 13

SaffaInTheUk says...

Yay, another strip club that will refuse me entry because I'm female. Apparently it makes the girls uncomfortable. No love for this lesbian it seems :(
Yay, another strip club that will refuse me entry because I'm female. Apparently it makes the girls uncomfortable. No love for this lesbian it seems :( SaffaInTheUk
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2:38pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

AlanM1952 wrote:
Hopefully Red Funnel will put on some extra Red Jets to get us to and from Cowes for this new attraction. Maybe they will offer a combined ticket as it's right next to their terminal.
Excellent Idea! Can't wait to see the look on those kids faces when they're told they can't go in because they're not 18
[quote][p][bold]AlanM1952[/bold] wrote: Hopefully Red Funnel will put on some extra Red Jets to get us to and from Cowes for this new attraction. Maybe they will offer a combined ticket as it's right next to their terminal.[/p][/quote]Excellent Idea! Can't wait to see the look on those kids faces when they're told they can't go in because they're not 18 03alpe01
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2:56pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Plum Pudding says...

Which is more or less moral? A strip club or a casino?

I wouldn't worry about it in anyhing but the short term, I suspect this is just another business born to go bust.

And far better a historic building remains as far more of a real landmark than the so called "landmark" developments that cater for students but are nothing other than offensive to the eye and overwhelming for local communities!
Which is more or less moral? A strip club or a casino? I wouldn't worry about it in anyhing but the short term, I suspect this is just another business born to go bust. And far better a historic building remains as far more of a real landmark than the so called "landmark" developments that cater for students but are nothing other than offensive to the eye and overwhelming for local communities! Plum Pudding
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2:59pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Subject48 says...

@SaffaInTheUk

Aww sorry to hear that! Everyone should be able to experience the joy of being surrounded by boobies.

You could open your own joint up and try catering to the market, as a bi-sexual venue if you can recruit the dancers?

Not sure exactly how big this market is in Southampton mind you!
@SaffaInTheUk Aww sorry to hear that! Everyone should be able to experience the joy of being surrounded by boobies. You could open your own joint up and try catering to the market, as a bi-sexual venue if you can recruit the dancers? Not sure exactly how big this market is in Southampton mind you! Subject48
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3:03pm Thu 14 Mar 13

phil maccavity says...

AlanM1952 wrote:
Hopefully Red Funnel will put on some extra Red Jets to get us to and from Cowes for this new attraction. Maybe they will offer a combined ticket as it's right next to their terminal.
There used to be a Lap Dancing Club at the end of Town Quay (near the Round the World restaurant)
It didnt last long!!
[quote][p][bold]AlanM1952[/bold] wrote: Hopefully Red Funnel will put on some extra Red Jets to get us to and from Cowes for this new attraction. Maybe they will offer a combined ticket as it's right next to their terminal.[/p][/quote]There used to be a Lap Dancing Club at the end of Town Quay (near the Round the World restaurant) It didnt last long!! phil maccavity
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3:07pm Thu 14 Mar 13

phil maccavity says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?
Would be interested to know where you got this info from?
I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?[/p][/quote]Would be interested to know where you got this info from? I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it. phil maccavity
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3:14pm Thu 14 Mar 13

phil maccavity says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ".
Proud
I certainly dont think the planned use of one of Sotons few iconic buildings is a good one.
However perhaps the powers to be are looking to follow Liverpool's cultural lead.
According to the Liverpool Echo there are NINE Lap Dancing or similar clubs in the central part of the city plus the Council is fielding an application from Spearmint Rhino for a TENTH!!
Maybe this mix helped Liverpool in its successful bid for European City of Culture
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ".[/p][/quote]Proud I certainly dont think the planned use of one of Sotons few iconic buildings is a good one. However perhaps the powers to be are looking to follow Liverpool's cultural lead. According to the Liverpool Echo there are NINE Lap Dancing or similar clubs in the central part of the city plus the Council is fielding an application from Spearmint Rhino for a TENTH!! Maybe this mix helped Liverpool in its successful bid for European City of Culture phil maccavity
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3:20pm Thu 14 Mar 13

SO50 Saint says...

They should make it like The White Horse in London a classy establishment frequented by many Sotonians when the Saints are away in London. Get the £'s ready
They should make it like The White Horse in London a classy establishment frequented by many Sotonians when the Saints are away in London. Get the £'s ready SO50 Saint
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3:21pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

phil maccavity wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?
Would be interested to know where you got this info from?
I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.
This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council:

http://www.dailyecho
.co.uk/news/9894292.
City_snow_dome_schem
e_scrapped/

The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it.
It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?[/p][/quote]Would be interested to know where you got this info from? I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.[/p][/quote]This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/9894292. City_snow_dome_schem e_scrapped/ The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it. It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront. 03alpe01
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3:35pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Lone Ranger. says...

03alpe01 wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?
Would be interested to know where you got this info from?
I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.
This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council:

http://www.dailyecho

.co.uk/news/9894292.

City_snow_dome_schem

e_scrapped/

The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it.
It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront.
Thats the spin of the Daily Echo for you.
.
The developer did pull out with insufficient funding and an unsure market for it.
.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?[/p][/quote]Would be interested to know where you got this info from? I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.[/p][/quote]This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/9894292. City_snow_dome_schem e_scrapped/ The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it. It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront.[/p][/quote]Thats the spin of the Daily Echo for you. . The developer did pull out with insufficient funding and an unsure market for it. . Lone Ranger.
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3:43pm Thu 14 Mar 13

AdrianSmith says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?
Would be interested to know where you got this info from?
I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.
This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council:

http://www.dailyecho


.co.uk/news/9894292.


City_snow_dome_schem


e_scrapped/

The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it.
It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront.
Thats the spin of the Daily Echo for you.
.
The developer did pull out with insufficient funding and an unsure market for it.
.
I suggest you actually read the article. Richard Williams says himself that they “...were fairly clear to officers earlier on that we didn’t want a snow dome so there’s not going to be a snow dome,” he said.

“What we want to do is develop marine activities on the waterfront."

It's hardly spin if he comes out himself and unequivocally says the new council didn't want it.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?[/p][/quote]Would be interested to know where you got this info from? I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.[/p][/quote]This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/9894292. City_snow_dome_schem e_scrapped/ The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it. It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront.[/p][/quote]Thats the spin of the Daily Echo for you. . The developer did pull out with insufficient funding and an unsure market for it. .[/p][/quote]I suggest you actually read the article. Richard Williams says himself that they [the Labour group] “...were fairly clear to officers earlier on that we didn’t want a snow dome so there’s not going to be a snow dome,” he said. “What we want to do is develop marine activities on the waterfront." It's hardly spin if he comes out himself and unequivocally says the new council didn't want it. AdrianSmith
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3:43pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

What Developer was this then?
What Developer was this then? 03alpe01
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3:44pm Thu 14 Mar 13

bigfella777 says...

The nimby's are off again, to my knowlege isn't there a strip club within 500 yards of it anyway and one at Leisure world?
Are we really supposed to believe that next minute the area will become like a film set of Starsky and Hutch, hookers every 50 yards with Huggy Bear prowling around in a tinted Mercedes and crack dealers hustling on the corner?
No one who lives here could afford to go anyway it will probably be the cruise passengers who will visit for some fine champagne and a bit of FUN! remember that word?
The nimby's are off again, to my knowlege isn't there a strip club within 500 yards of it anyway and one at Leisure world? Are we really supposed to believe that next minute the area will become like a film set of Starsky and Hutch, hookers every 50 yards with Huggy Bear prowling around in a tinted Mercedes and crack dealers hustling on the corner? No one who lives here could afford to go anyway it will probably be the cruise passengers who will visit for some fine champagne and a bit of FUN! remember that word? bigfella777
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3:52pm Thu 14 Mar 13

phil maccavity says...

AdrianSmith wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?
Would be interested to know where you got this info from?
I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.
This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council:

http://www.dailyecho



.co.uk/news/9894292.



City_snow_dome_schem



e_scrapped/

The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it.
It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront.
Thats the spin of the Daily Echo for you.
.
The developer did pull out with insufficient funding and an unsure market for it.
.
I suggest you actually read the article. Richard Williams says himself that they “...were fairly clear to officers earlier on that we didn’t want a snow dome so there’s not going to be a snow dome,” he said.

“What we want to do is develop marine activities on the waterfront."

It's hardly spin if he comes out himself and unequivocally says the new council didn't want it.
Interesting and differing views.
The Council official (ie not a politician)I spoke to had been involved in the proposed scheme for some time and had high hopes it would proceed.
Not sure if the developers were the same people who operate Milton Keynes snowdome but the facility would have been similar.
Last time I spoke to him he certainly said it was a funding issue that prevented progression
[quote][p][bold]AdrianSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?[/p][/quote]Would be interested to know where you got this info from? I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.[/p][/quote]This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/9894292. City_snow_dome_schem e_scrapped/ The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it. It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront.[/p][/quote]Thats the spin of the Daily Echo for you. . The developer did pull out with insufficient funding and an unsure market for it. .[/p][/quote]I suggest you actually read the article. Richard Williams says himself that they [the Labour group] “...were fairly clear to officers earlier on that we didn’t want a snow dome so there’s not going to be a snow dome,” he said. “What we want to do is develop marine activities on the waterfront." It's hardly spin if he comes out himself and unequivocally says the new council didn't want it.[/p][/quote]Interesting and differing views. The Council official (ie not a politician)I spoke to had been involved in the proposed scheme for some time and had high hopes it would proceed. Not sure if the developers were the same people who operate Milton Keynes snowdome but the facility would have been similar. Last time I spoke to him he certainly said it was a funding issue that prevented progression phil maccavity
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3:57pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Stillness says...

localnews wrote:
solomum wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
solomum wrote:
If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.
Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.
Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.
Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers
That would be **** then ;-)
[quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.[/p][/quote]Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.[/p][/quote]Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.[/p][/quote]Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers[/p][/quote]That would be **** then ;-) Stillness
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4:02pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

phil maccavity wrote:
AdrianSmith wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?
Would be interested to know where you got this info from?
I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.
This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council:

http://www.dailyecho




.co.uk/news/9894292.




City_snow_dome_schem




e_scrapped/

The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it.
It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront.
Thats the spin of the Daily Echo for you.
.
The developer did pull out with insufficient funding and an unsure market for it.
.
I suggest you actually read the article. Richard Williams says himself that they “...were fairly clear to officers earlier on that we didn’t want a snow dome so there’s not going to be a snow dome,” he said.

“What we want to do is develop marine activities on the waterfront."

It's hardly spin if he comes out himself and unequivocally says the new council didn't want it.
Interesting and differing views.
The Council official (ie not a politician)I spoke to had been involved in the proposed scheme for some time and had high hopes it would proceed.
Not sure if the developers were the same people who operate Milton Keynes snowdome but the facility would have been similar.
Last time I spoke to him he certainly said it was a funding issue that prevented progression
Which Council was he on?
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AdrianSmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?[/p][/quote]Would be interested to know where you got this info from? I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.[/p][/quote]This is the article about the Snow Dome being stopped by the Council: http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/news/9894292. City_snow_dome_schem e_scrapped/ The old Tory Council really wanted to progress with it, and Developers were lined up and alot of Developers had expressed interest in developing it. It was the newly-elected Labour Council who put a stop to it, and an Ice Rink, despite there being ridiculousy heavy demand for an Ice Rink in Southampton. This Labour Council have since become hell-bent on bringing this along with the Supercasino to the Waterfront.[/p][/quote]Thats the spin of the Daily Echo for you. . The developer did pull out with insufficient funding and an unsure market for it. .[/p][/quote]I suggest you actually read the article. Richard Williams says himself that they [the Labour group] “...were fairly clear to officers earlier on that we didn’t want a snow dome so there’s not going to be a snow dome,” he said. “What we want to do is develop marine activities on the waterfront." It's hardly spin if he comes out himself and unequivocally says the new council didn't want it.[/p][/quote]Interesting and differing views. The Council official (ie not a politician)I spoke to had been involved in the proposed scheme for some time and had high hopes it would proceed. Not sure if the developers were the same people who operate Milton Keynes snowdome but the facility would have been similar. Last time I spoke to him he certainly said it was a funding issue that prevented progression[/p][/quote]Which Council was he on? 03alpe01
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4:06pm Thu 14 Mar 13

phil maccavity says...

Southampton City Council employee
Southampton City Council employee phil maccavity
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4:11pm Thu 14 Mar 13

Stillness says...

Stillness wrote:
localnews wrote:
solomum wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
solomum wrote:
If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.
Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.
Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.
Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers
That would be **** then ;-)
Looks like the name given to female dogs has been banned by the censor.
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]localnews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.[/p][/quote]Women don't seem to be such shrinking violets when groups like The Chippendales perform in front of packed houses.[/p][/quote]Not quite in the same league as a lapdancing club though is it. With the chippendales you can browse the menu but not sample it. Lapdancing is a bit more close and personal.[/p][/quote]Rubbish !!!! Women in packs are like dogs on heat with male strippers[/p][/quote]That would be **** then ;-)[/p][/quote]Looks like the name given to female dogs has been banned by the censor. Stillness
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4:11pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

Who was in charge of the Council at the time? As in, was it before or after this Labour Council came in?
Who was in charge of the Council at the time? As in, was it before or after this Labour Council came in? 03alpe01
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4:23pm Thu 14 Mar 13

loosehead says...

phil maccavity wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?
Would be interested to know where you got this info from?
I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.
Phil it was in this paper that Cllr Williams was withdrawing permission for the Snow dome development because it wasn't water themed enough.
I talk to Rugby coaches & one I talked to is on the committee of one of our rowing clubs using the river Itchen.
He told me the plans for the snow dome would have included a small Ice Rink & it would be constructed in a way that under it would be a purpose built Rowing club facility with slips into the river & be big enough to accommodate both clubs & they were all for it but the council stopped it dead in it's tracks citing not a water based facility his question was what do you call rowing?
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?[/p][/quote]Would be interested to know where you got this info from? I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.[/p][/quote]Phil it was in this paper that Cllr Williams was withdrawing permission for the Snow dome development because it wasn't water themed enough. I talk to Rugby coaches & one I talked to is on the committee of one of our rowing clubs using the river Itchen. He told me the plans for the snow dome would have included a small Ice Rink & it would be constructed in a way that under it would be a purpose built Rowing club facility with slips into the river & be big enough to accommodate both clubs & they were all for it but the council stopped it dead in it's tracks citing not a water based facility his question was what do you call rowing? loosehead
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4:27pm Thu 14 Mar 13

loosehead says...

phil maccavity wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?
Would be interested to know where you got this info from?
I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.
Phil look at this from an Echo article.
But in an interview with the Daily Echo, new council leader Richard Williams revealed he has killed off the plan and would be looking for an alternative development.

“We were fairly clear to officers earlier on that we didn’t want a snow dome so there’s not going to be a snow dome,” he said.


“What we want to do is develop marine activities on the waterfront.

“It could be anything in that context but it won’t be something that isn’t water related for obvious reasons.

“What we haven’t got much of in the city is access to the waterfront and to not have waterfront-based activities on the waterfront would be a bit silly in our opinion.”
So again our leader being a hypocrite as surely this strip club isn't in a water based activity is it?
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Sorry forgot to ask how this can go on the Waterfront, without being water themed? The Council's reason for stopping the Snow Dome (which would have been fantastic for everyone and not just males over 18) was that it wasn't water themed and they wanted water based things on the Waterfront. And yet they want to put a strip club and a supercasino on there?[/p][/quote]Would be interested to know where you got this info from? I asked a Council Planning officer about the Snow Dome development and was told the Council were keen to progress it but the Developer was unable to fund it.[/p][/quote]Phil look at this from an Echo article. But in an interview with the Daily Echo, new council leader Richard Williams revealed he has killed off the plan and would be looking for an alternative development. “We were fairly clear to officers earlier on that we didn’t want a snow dome so there’s not going to be a snow dome,” he said. “What we want to do is develop marine activities on the waterfront. “It could be anything in that context but it won’t be something that isn’t water related for obvious reasons. “What we haven’t got much of in the city is access to the waterfront and to not have waterfront-based activities on the waterfront would be a bit silly in our opinion.” So again our leader being a hypocrite as surely this strip club isn't in a water based activity is it? loosehead
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4:45pm Thu 14 Mar 13

bigal007 says...

minnie64 wrote:
Block41row0sfc wrote:
Men have needs. Women need work.
That made me chuckle
lol
[quote][p][bold]minnie64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block41row0sfc[/bold] wrote: Men have needs. Women need work.[/p][/quote]That made me chuckle[/p][/quote]lol bigal007
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4:48pm Thu 14 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ".
Proud
I certainly dont think the planned use of one of Sotons few iconic buildings is a good one.
However perhaps the powers to be are looking to follow Liverpool's cultural lead.
According to the Liverpool Echo there are NINE Lap Dancing or similar clubs in the central part of the city plus the Council is fielding an application from Spearmint Rhino for a TENTH!!
Maybe this mix helped Liverpool in its successful bid for European City of Culture
Liverpool is much bigger than Southampton, and there is plenty on offer in addition to strip clubs. You can't really say the same about Southampton, there are hardly even any decent places to drink.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: This cultural mix of historic building and strip club certainly won't help Southampton get the title of " city of culture ".[/p][/quote]Proud I certainly dont think the planned use of one of Sotons few iconic buildings is a good one. However perhaps the powers to be are looking to follow Liverpool's cultural lead. According to the Liverpool Echo there are NINE Lap Dancing or similar clubs in the central part of the city plus the Council is fielding an application from Spearmint Rhino for a TENTH!! Maybe this mix helped Liverpool in its successful bid for European City of Culture[/p][/quote]Liverpool is much bigger than Southampton, and there is plenty on offer in addition to strip clubs. You can't really say the same about Southampton, there are hardly even any decent places to drink. kingnotail
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4:50pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported.

Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?
I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't? 03alpe01
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5:36pm Thu 14 Mar 13

RealTalkSouthampton says...

If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well! RealTalkSouthampton
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5:40pm Thu 14 Mar 13

skin2000 says...

The strip club, Super Casino, Large Biomass plant plus all the the stunning features we have got already, I think the 2017 City of Culture is in the bag.
The strip club, Super Casino, Large Biomass plant plus all the the stunning features we have got already, I think the 2017 City of Culture is in the bag. skin2000
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5:56pm Thu 14 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

skin2000 wrote:
The strip club, Super Casino, Large Biomass plant plus all the the stunning features we have got already, I think the 2017 City of Culture is in the bag.
The funniest thing is going to be when Southampton and Portsmouth are beaten by somewhere like Hull, or Dundee or the rather non-descript 'East Kent'..
[quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: The strip club, Super Casino, Large Biomass plant plus all the the stunning features we have got already, I think the 2017 City of Culture is in the bag.[/p][/quote]The funniest thing is going to be when Southampton and Portsmouth are beaten by somewhere like Hull, or Dundee or the rather non-descript 'East Kent'.. kingnotail
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5:56pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
Believe you me, we would if we could! But we are just ordinary people with limited money. What should happen is the powers that be should ask us, the people of the City what we want in our City and then they try and talk to the right people to get it built. And not what they think we need, because they constantly keep getting it wrong
[quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]Believe you me, we would if we could! But we are just ordinary people with limited money. What should happen is the powers that be should ask us, the people of the City what we want in our City and then they try and talk to the right people to get it built. And not what they think we need, because they constantly keep getting it wrong 03alpe01
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7:03pm Thu 14 Mar 13

bluewhiteandred says...

" YOU DIRTY OLD MAN "
Steptoe and son and the city of culture !
proposed ?
" YOU DIRTY OLD MAN " Steptoe and son and the city of culture ! proposed ? bluewhiteandred
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7:27pm Thu 14 Mar 13

phil maccavity says...

RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
[quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities. phil maccavity
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8:26pm Thu 14 Mar 13

cantthinkofone says...

No worse than a casino.
No worse than a casino. cantthinkofone
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8:50pm Thu 14 Mar 13

bobbyboy says...

Dont worry good peoples it will not last theres no where to park unless you take out a morgage. Still on a cold night it will give the fishermen somewhere to go for another catch of fishy sorts.
Anyhows your Council leader will have a nice place to entertain his cronies out of that nice little pile he's put by for himself (slushy fund indeed). Also Fareham has some high profile Libdems who's used to running these sorts of place's so it will be easier to find a management.Just for good measure they will proberly employ eastern european's when they trudge over here from the summer onwards.It will add a bit of culture to the place.
Dont worry good peoples it will not last theres no where to park unless you take out a morgage. Still on a cold night it will give the fishermen somewhere to go for another catch of fishy sorts. Anyhows your Council leader will have a nice place to entertain his cronies out of that nice little pile he's put by for himself (slushy fund indeed). Also Fareham has some high profile Libdems who's used to running these sorts of place's so it will be easier to find a management.Just for good measure they will proberly employ eastern european's when they trudge over here from the summer onwards.It will add a bit of culture to the place. bobbyboy
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8:59pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety! 03alpe01
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9:22pm Thu 14 Mar 13

work-on says...

Sad that money circulates so readily around sex and entertainment while we resent contributing to a healthy social infrastructure.
How hedonistic and primitive we are. If only people found some pleasure in doing something helpful with their lives perhaps we could support ill and disabled people better and not have to be constantly shocked by revelations of neglect. Perhaps we could educate our young people by actually spending worthwhile time with them,reading, talking, looking at what's left of the natural world together.
The issue isn't where it is but what it is, and what it says about our values as a society.
Sad that money circulates so readily around sex and entertainment while we resent contributing to a healthy social infrastructure. How hedonistic and primitive we are. If only people found some pleasure in doing something helpful with their lives perhaps we could support ill and disabled people better and not have to be constantly shocked by revelations of neglect. Perhaps we could educate our young people by actually spending worthwhile time with them,reading, talking, looking at what's left of the natural world together. The issue isn't where it is but what it is, and what it says about our values as a society. work-on
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9:24pm Thu 14 Mar 13

loosehead says...

phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment? loosehead
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9:34pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do 03alpe01
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9:40pm Thu 14 Mar 13

loosehead says...

03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do
Who knows maybe Williams is a close friend of the Libdem in Fareham?
Realistically I remember the kick up about Tory plans for the Wool House turning into a bar or the Bargate turning into a bar,
The Bargate I was opposed to but the Wool house could have been turned into a medieval eating house & kept all it's historical characters but a strip club there? Some one said it won't be a brothel like Woolston?
No not all the women will be on the game but I've known a few strippers & some are definitely on the game.
They have a very short career so try to make as much as possible but I just don't see this as the right place do you?
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do[/p][/quote]Who knows maybe Williams is a close friend of the Libdem in Fareham? Realistically I remember the kick up about Tory plans for the Wool House turning into a bar or the Bargate turning into a bar, The Bargate I was opposed to but the Wool house could have been turned into a medieval eating house & kept all it's historical characters but a strip club there? Some one said it won't be a brothel like Woolston? No not all the women will be on the game but I've known a few strippers & some are definitely on the game. They have a very short career so try to make as much as possible but I just don't see this as the right place do you? loosehead
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9:44pm Thu 14 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

Wait, Williams has friends?!?!?!?
Wait, Williams has friends?!?!?!? 03alpe01
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9:48pm Thu 14 Mar 13

phil maccavity says...

loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I am sure The Echo article reports Cllr Williams correctly.
All I can say is that the feedback I had from the Council officer was that there was funding issues (I think the set up cost for the private investor was approx £50m and access to this level of capital was beginning to become a problem)
Interestingly some of the tenants in the adjacent, Council owned, industrial units had been given notice to quit ahead of the proposed Snowdome development.
The Council (under the previous admin I think) had produced grand plans for 'gentrification' of the Itchen Waterfront from Itchen Bridge to the old TVS site.
btw I doubt very much if too many, if any, cruise passengers would be interested in the proposed facility.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I am sure The Echo article reports Cllr Williams correctly. All I can say is that the feedback I had from the Council officer was that there was funding issues (I think the set up cost for the private investor was approx £50m and access to this level of capital was beginning to become a problem) Interestingly some of the tenants in the adjacent, Council owned, industrial units had been given notice to quit ahead of the proposed Snowdome development. The Council (under the previous admin I think) had produced grand plans for 'gentrification' of the Itchen Waterfront from Itchen Bridge to the old TVS site. btw I doubt very much if too many, if any, cruise passengers would be interested in the proposed facility. phil maccavity
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8:07am Fri 15 Mar 13

loosehead says...

phil maccavity wrote:
loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I am sure The Echo article reports Cllr Williams correctly.
All I can say is that the feedback I had from the Council officer was that there was funding issues (I think the set up cost for the private investor was approx £50m and access to this level of capital was beginning to become a problem)
Interestingly some of the tenants in the adjacent, Council owned, industrial units had been given notice to quit ahead of the proposed Snowdome development.
The Council (under the previous admin I think) had produced grand plans for 'gentrification' of the Itchen Waterfront from Itchen Bridge to the old TVS site.
btw I doubt very much if too many, if any, cruise passengers would be interested in the proposed facility.
strip club here,flats on a thin strip of land has Williams finally lost the plot?
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I am sure The Echo article reports Cllr Williams correctly. All I can say is that the feedback I had from the Council officer was that there was funding issues (I think the set up cost for the private investor was approx £50m and access to this level of capital was beginning to become a problem) Interestingly some of the tenants in the adjacent, Council owned, industrial units had been given notice to quit ahead of the proposed Snowdome development. The Council (under the previous admin I think) had produced grand plans for 'gentrification' of the Itchen Waterfront from Itchen Bridge to the old TVS site. btw I doubt very much if too many, if any, cruise passengers would be interested in the proposed facility.[/p][/quote]strip club here,flats on a thin strip of land has Williams finally lost the plot? loosehead
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10:15am Fri 15 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do
Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do[/p][/quote]Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead? kingnotail
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10:17am Fri 15 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety![/p][/quote]Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t. kingnotail
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10:35am Fri 15 Mar 13

Beer Monster says...

kingnotail wrote:
skin2000 wrote:
The strip club, Super Casino, Large Biomass plant plus all the the stunning features we have got already, I think the 2017 City of Culture is in the bag.
The funniest thing is going to be when Southampton and Portsmouth are beaten by somewhere like Hull, or Dundee or the rather non-descript 'East Kent'..
Agreed, I may be biased, given that I got my degree at the University of Kent, but I think it would be quite apt for the award to go to the Garden of England. And it wouldn't be the first time it's been awarded to an area, the 'Greater Region' won it in 2007;

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Greater_Reg
ion
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skin2000[/bold] wrote: The strip club, Super Casino, Large Biomass plant plus all the the stunning features we have got already, I think the 2017 City of Culture is in the bag.[/p][/quote]The funniest thing is going to be when Southampton and Portsmouth are beaten by somewhere like Hull, or Dundee or the rather non-descript 'East Kent'..[/p][/quote]Agreed, I may be biased, given that I got my degree at the University of Kent, but I think it would be quite apt for the award to go to the Garden of England. And it wouldn't be the first time it's been awarded to an area, the 'Greater Region' won it in 2007; http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Greater_Reg ion Beer Monster
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12:30pm Fri 15 Mar 13

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do
Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?
At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ".
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do[/p][/quote]Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?[/p][/quote]At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ". Proud from LIVERPOOL
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12:40pm Fri 15 Mar 13

loosehead says...

Why not make this building into a Tourist Information Bureau with a Bureau De Change as well ?
Ideally sited for cruise ship passengers & crew plus the Ferry service.
then visitors to the boat show?
Why not make this building into a Tourist Information Bureau with a Bureau De Change as well ? Ideally sited for cruise ship passengers & crew plus the Ferry service. then visitors to the boat show? loosehead
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12:51pm Fri 15 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.
Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety![/p][/quote]Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.[/p][/quote]Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either 03alpe01
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1:48pm Fri 15 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do
Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?
At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ".
You don't have to tell me, Liverpool is light years ahead of Southampton in every considerable aspect.
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do[/p][/quote]Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?[/p][/quote]At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ".[/p][/quote]You don't have to tell me, Liverpool is light years ahead of Southampton in every considerable aspect. kingnotail
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1:49pm Fri 15 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.
Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either
Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety![/p][/quote]Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.[/p][/quote]Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either[/p][/quote]Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no. kingnotail
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1:53pm Fri 15 Mar 13

LBSOTON says...

Thats Saturday night out sorted, whooohoo
Thats Saturday night out sorted, whooohoo LBSOTON
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3:03pm Fri 15 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.
Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either
Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.
Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety![/p][/quote]Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.[/p][/quote]Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either[/p][/quote]Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.[/p][/quote]Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for 03alpe01
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3:03pm Fri 15 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.
Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either
Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.
Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety![/p][/quote]Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.[/p][/quote]Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either[/p][/quote]Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.[/p][/quote]Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for 03alpe01
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3:12pm Fri 15 Mar 13

loosehead says...

03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.
Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either
Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.
Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for
the Snow Dome would have included an Ice Rink but Williams didn't want it.
Maybe more sub standard flats?
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety![/p][/quote]Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.[/p][/quote]Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either[/p][/quote]Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.[/p][/quote]Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for[/p][/quote]the Snow Dome would have included an Ice Rink but Williams didn't want it. Maybe more sub standard flats? loosehead
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4:06pm Fri 15 Mar 13

thinklikealocal says...

03alpe01 wrote:
I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?
The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?[/p][/quote]The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only. thinklikealocal
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4:14pm Fri 15 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.
Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either
Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.
Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for
What about a large arena concert venue that can double as an ice rink? Such things exist. Not saying their shouldn't be a stand-alone ice rink, it just shouldn't be high priority.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety![/p][/quote]Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.[/p][/quote]Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either[/p][/quote]Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.[/p][/quote]Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for[/p][/quote]What about a large arena concert venue that can double as an ice rink? Such things exist. Not saying their shouldn't be a stand-alone ice rink, it just shouldn't be high priority. kingnotail
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4:14pm Fri 15 Mar 13

kingnotail says...

kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.
Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either
Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.
Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for
What about a large arena concert venue that can double as an ice rink? Such things exist. Not saying their shouldn't be a stand-alone ice rink, it just shouldn't be high priority.
*there
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety![/p][/quote]Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.[/p][/quote]Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either[/p][/quote]Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.[/p][/quote]Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for[/p][/quote]What about a large arena concert venue that can double as an ice rink? Such things exist. Not saying their shouldn't be a stand-alone ice rink, it just shouldn't be high priority.[/p][/quote]*there kingnotail
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5:02pm Fri 15 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

kingnotail wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not.
These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety!
Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.
Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either
Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.
Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for
What about a large arena concert venue that can double as an ice rink? Such things exist. Not saying their shouldn't be a stand-alone ice rink, it just shouldn't be high priority.
*there
That would be an excellent idea. Just what this city needs. Instead of all this crap, build a concert venue/ice rink. That would attract the tourists in, would put Southampton on the map and maybe, just maybe give us a chance of winning this "City of Culture" thing. Cos at the moment, the only way we'll win is if Portsmouth is the most cultural city in the World, and it drags us over the finish line!
[quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Well technically, if there looking to employ people in Southampton, do they have any choice BUT to employ Eastern Europeans? I think not. These people running Southampton really have some original ideas. I know, let's have a 3rd strip club, a 3rd casino and a 4th cinema. We clearly don't have enough of those around here! Oooh, and while we're at it, let's add another million and one restaurants! That'll give the place some variety![/p][/quote]Quantity does not mean quality. There are a handful of decent restaurants in Southampton. Everything else is sh1t.[/p][/quote]Granted there are some decent restaurants. There is also a decent cinema in Odeon. Granted Cineworld is sh1t, but the upside to that is that its cheap. There is also a decent cinema in Vue, albeit that's in Eastleigh, it is easily accessible to Southampton folk. Two decent cinemas nearby is enough for most people. Hate to say it, but what this city really needs is an ice rink, as it would be beneficial to nearly everyone and would attract people from all over the South. A large concert venue similar to the BIC in Bournemouth wouldn't go a miss either[/p][/quote]Large concert venue, yes. Ice rink, no.[/p][/quote]Why no Ice Rink? Have you ever been to one? I like many other people on here thought no towards an ice rink. Then one Saturday I went to a Basingstoke Bison Ice Hockey match and changed my opinion instantly. Everyone I know whose been to an ice hockey match has loved it and it inspires people to take up skating. And ice rinks arent just used for hockey, there also used for figure skating as well as ice dance shows and just general skating. Ice Hockey matches are also well attended with attendances often topping 1,000 each week. Rinks are actually better off than people down here give them credit for[/p][/quote]What about a large arena concert venue that can double as an ice rink? Such things exist. Not saying their shouldn't be a stand-alone ice rink, it just shouldn't be high priority.[/p][/quote]*there[/p][/quote]That would be an excellent idea. Just what this city needs. Instead of all this crap, build a concert venue/ice rink. That would attract the tourists in, would put Southampton on the map and maybe, just maybe give us a chance of winning this "City of Culture" thing. Cos at the moment, the only way we'll win is if Portsmouth is the most cultural city in the World, and it drags us over the finish line! 03alpe01
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5:20pm Fri 15 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

Now, how do we go about telling this deeply moronic Council that that's what we need and not all this crap?
Now, how do we go about telling this deeply moronic Council that that's what we need and not all this crap? 03alpe01
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8:09pm Fri 15 Mar 13

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

03alpe01 wrote:
Now, how do we go about telling this deeply moronic Council that that's what we need and not all this crap?
Rally all your art , music , history , civic and education establishments , organisations and societies together.
Get the population of Southampton behind the bid and petition your councillors and city council that you expect better from them.

Use the local press to put pressure on the council, write letters of concern regarding issues you hold dear, keep up a relentless campaign until your council see's the error of it's ways.
Go to your elected councillors surgeries and leave them in no doubt about your lack of faith in the way the city is run.
Nothing will change unless you the population of Southampton do something about it.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Now, how do we go about telling this deeply moronic Council that that's what we need and not all this crap?[/p][/quote]Rally all your art , music , history , civic and education establishments , organisations and societies together. Get the population of Southampton behind the bid and petition your councillors and city council that you expect better from them. Use the local press to put pressure on the council, write letters of concern regarding issues you hold dear, keep up a relentless campaign until your council see's the error of it's ways. Go to your elected councillors surgeries and leave them in no doubt about your lack of faith in the way the city is run. Nothing will change unless you the population of Southampton do something about it. Proud from LIVERPOOL
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8:48pm Fri 15 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
Now, how do we go about telling this deeply moronic Council that that's what we need and not all this crap?
Rally all your art , music , history , civic and education establishments , organisations and societies together.
Get the population of Southampton behind the bid and petition your councillors and city council that you expect better from them.

Use the local press to put pressure on the council, write letters of concern regarding issues you hold dear, keep up a relentless campaign until your council see's the error of it's ways.
Go to your elected councillors surgeries and leave them in no doubt about your lack of faith in the way the city is run.
Nothing will change unless you the population of Southampton do something about it.
That will take some doing, but if that's the only way forward, then I guess we have no other option if we want to turn things around here
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: Now, how do we go about telling this deeply moronic Council that that's what we need and not all this crap?[/p][/quote]Rally all your art , music , history , civic and education establishments , organisations and societies together. Get the population of Southampton behind the bid and petition your councillors and city council that you expect better from them. Use the local press to put pressure on the council, write letters of concern regarding issues you hold dear, keep up a relentless campaign until your council see's the error of it's ways. Go to your elected councillors surgeries and leave them in no doubt about your lack of faith in the way the city is run. Nothing will change unless you the population of Southampton do something about it.[/p][/quote]That will take some doing, but if that's the only way forward, then I guess we have no other option if we want to turn things around here 03alpe01
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9:04pm Fri 15 Mar 13

loosehead says...

thinklikealocal wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?
The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only.
but they can deny planning permission or a license to operate this club can't they?
or how did they oppose that club in Woolston?
I know there would have been a brand new rowing club a Snow dome inclusive of an Ice rink so please explain to me how these were not water based enough?
A top class restaurant or as I've suggested move the Information bureau into it with a gift shop & Bureau De change for cruise ships?
[quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?[/p][/quote]The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only.[/p][/quote]but they can deny planning permission or a license to operate this club can't they? or how did they oppose that club in Woolston? I know there would have been a brand new rowing club a Snow dome inclusive of an Ice rink so please explain to me how these were not water based enough? A top class restaurant or as I've suggested move the Information bureau into it with a gift shop & Bureau De change for cruise ships? loosehead
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9:43pm Fri 15 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?
The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only.
but they can deny planning permission or a license to operate this club can't they?
or how did they oppose that club in Woolston?
I know there would have been a brand new rowing club a Snow dome inclusive of an Ice rink so please explain to me how these were not water based enough?
A top class restaurant or as I've suggested move the Information bureau into it with a gift shop & Bureau De change for cruise ships?
Ask the Council. I really would love to see their response, I really would. Everyone would have loved to have seen the Snow Dome in Southampton. As for the planning permission/licence thing I'm not sure because the building already has a licence to serve alcohol, and the article says that the only organisation who could object was Hampshire Constabulary, who didn't. Did the club in Woolston already have a licence to sell alcohol?
Still, I'm sure the Council will come up with good reasons for why the Snow Dome inc Ice Rink wasn't "water-based" enough, and a block of "seaview" flats is perfectly water based when the time comes.
On another topic, how on Earth they think the Bargate Centre can carry on as retail is completely beyond me...
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?[/p][/quote]The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only.[/p][/quote]but they can deny planning permission or a license to operate this club can't they? or how did they oppose that club in Woolston? I know there would have been a brand new rowing club a Snow dome inclusive of an Ice rink so please explain to me how these were not water based enough? A top class restaurant or as I've suggested move the Information bureau into it with a gift shop & Bureau De change for cruise ships?[/p][/quote]Ask the Council. I really would love to see their response, I really would. Everyone would have loved to have seen the Snow Dome in Southampton. As for the planning permission/licence thing I'm not sure because the building already has a licence to serve alcohol, and the article says that the only organisation who could object was Hampshire Constabulary, who didn't. Did the club in Woolston already have a licence to sell alcohol? Still, I'm sure the Council will come up with good reasons for why the Snow Dome inc Ice Rink wasn't "water-based" enough, and a block of "seaview" flats is perfectly water based when the time comes. On another topic, how on Earth they think the Bargate Centre can carry on as retail is completely beyond me... 03alpe01
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11:21pm Fri 15 Mar 13

phil maccavity says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do
Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?
At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ".
But for how much longer?
The World Heritage accolade is under threat from the proposed Liverpool Waters deveopment scheme.
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do[/p][/quote]Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?[/p][/quote]At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ".[/p][/quote]But for how much longer? The World Heritage accolade is under threat from the proposed Liverpool Waters deveopment scheme. phil maccavity
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12:45am Sat 16 Mar 13

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

phil maccavity wrote:
Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do
Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?
At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ".
But for how much longer?
The World Heritage accolade is under threat from the proposed Liverpool Waters deveopment scheme.
The Liverpool Waters scheme starts north of Princes dock and should have no adverse effect on the vista of the Pier Head area.
Liverpool like any other city has evolved with the passing of time and I personally think that re-development of those dock area's which are deemed derelict must take place subject to strict conditions.
The " World Heritage Site " consists of 6 historic area's of the city, so I think with reasonable planning and thought any impact will be negligible.
[quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do[/p][/quote]Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?[/p][/quote]At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ".[/p][/quote]But for how much longer? The World Heritage accolade is under threat from the proposed Liverpool Waters deveopment scheme.[/p][/quote]The Liverpool Waters scheme starts north of Princes dock and should have no adverse effect on the vista of the Pier Head area. Liverpool like any other city has evolved with the passing of time and I personally think that re-development of those dock area's which are deemed derelict must take place subject to strict conditions. The " World Heritage Site " consists of 6 historic area's of the city, so I think with reasonable planning and thought any impact will be negligible. Proud from LIVERPOOL
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8:41am Sat 16 Mar 13

loosehead says...

03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?
The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only.
but they can deny planning permission or a license to operate this club can't they?
or how did they oppose that club in Woolston?
I know there would have been a brand new rowing club a Snow dome inclusive of an Ice rink so please explain to me how these were not water based enough?
A top class restaurant or as I've suggested move the Information bureau into it with a gift shop & Bureau De change for cruise ships?
Ask the Council. I really would love to see their response, I really would. Everyone would have loved to have seen the Snow Dome in Southampton. As for the planning permission/licence thing I'm not sure because the building already has a licence to serve alcohol, and the article says that the only organisation who could object was Hampshire Constabulary, who didn't. Did the club in Woolston already have a licence to sell alcohol?
Still, I'm sure the Council will come up with good reasons for why the Snow Dome inc Ice Rink wasn't "water-based" enough, and a block of "seaview" flats is perfectly water based when the time comes.
On another topic, how on Earth they think the Bargate Centre can carry on as retail is completely beyond me...
Will it? with the idea to build walls off of the Bargate demolish those shops build a few shops but also build more flats will they leave the Bargate centre as it is?
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?[/p][/quote]The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only.[/p][/quote]but they can deny planning permission or a license to operate this club can't they? or how did they oppose that club in Woolston? I know there would have been a brand new rowing club a Snow dome inclusive of an Ice rink so please explain to me how these were not water based enough? A top class restaurant or as I've suggested move the Information bureau into it with a gift shop & Bureau De change for cruise ships?[/p][/quote]Ask the Council. I really would love to see their response, I really would. Everyone would have loved to have seen the Snow Dome in Southampton. As for the planning permission/licence thing I'm not sure because the building already has a licence to serve alcohol, and the article says that the only organisation who could object was Hampshire Constabulary, who didn't. Did the club in Woolston already have a licence to sell alcohol? Still, I'm sure the Council will come up with good reasons for why the Snow Dome inc Ice Rink wasn't "water-based" enough, and a block of "seaview" flats is perfectly water based when the time comes. On another topic, how on Earth they think the Bargate Centre can carry on as retail is completely beyond me...[/p][/quote]Will it? with the idea to build walls off of the Bargate demolish those shops build a few shops but also build more flats will they leave the Bargate centre as it is? loosehead
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12:44pm Sat 16 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

loosehead wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
thinklikealocal wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?
The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only.
but they can deny planning permission or a license to operate this club can't they?
or how did they oppose that club in Woolston?
I know there would have been a brand new rowing club a Snow dome inclusive of an Ice rink so please explain to me how these were not water based enough?
A top class restaurant or as I've suggested move the Information bureau into it with a gift shop & Bureau De change for cruise ships?
Ask the Council. I really would love to see their response, I really would. Everyone would have loved to have seen the Snow Dome in Southampton. As for the planning permission/licence thing I'm not sure because the building already has a licence to serve alcohol, and the article says that the only organisation who could object was Hampshire Constabulary, who didn't. Did the club in Woolston already have a licence to sell alcohol?
Still, I'm sure the Council will come up with good reasons for why the Snow Dome inc Ice Rink wasn't "water-based" enough, and a block of "seaview" flats is perfectly water based when the time comes.
On another topic, how on Earth they think the Bargate Centre can carry on as retail is completely beyond me...
Will it? with the idea to build walls off of the Bargate demolish those shops build a few shops but also build more flats will they leave the Bargate centre as it is?
More flats? God help us! How can they leave the Bargate Centre as it is? It's run down, and well past its sellby date now and needs to be changed. Given the current high-street crisis, how can they even think about putting shops in? This was done by Leisure Boss Warwick Payne, whose idea of Leisure is shops, flats and officies.
Also, just out of interest, if they build more walls off the Bargate, presumably to revitalise the heritage, will it actually be heritage because the walls will be brand new instead of in there medieval state?
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thinklikealocal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: I sincerely hope that this alternative development that Williams is seeking instead of the Snow Dome includes some highly overpriced "luxury apartments" where the illegal immigrant is King and can live in there rent free instead of being deported. Sarcasm aside, loosehead is right. This Williams idiot running the Council is a total hypocrite and clearly doesn't want there to be a variety of leisure options avilable within the City. I'd love for someone to come on here and explain how a strip club and a supercasino (neither of which we need and not many people want) are water based activity and the snow dome isn't?[/p][/quote]The Council own the land where the Snow Dome was to be cited, that gives them a choice about who they sell the land to for what purpose. They do not own this building and have merely granted planning permission, one assumes, in line with planning law/policy. They are not in a position to demand that private landlords lease properties on the waterside to businesses for 'water based' activities only.[/p][/quote]but they can deny planning permission or a license to operate this club can't they? or how did they oppose that club in Woolston? I know there would have been a brand new rowing club a Snow dome inclusive of an Ice rink so please explain to me how these were not water based enough? A top class restaurant or as I've suggested move the Information bureau into it with a gift shop & Bureau De change for cruise ships?[/p][/quote]Ask the Council. I really would love to see their response, I really would. Everyone would have loved to have seen the Snow Dome in Southampton. As for the planning permission/licence thing I'm not sure because the building already has a licence to serve alcohol, and the article says that the only organisation who could object was Hampshire Constabulary, who didn't. Did the club in Woolston already have a licence to sell alcohol? Still, I'm sure the Council will come up with good reasons for why the Snow Dome inc Ice Rink wasn't "water-based" enough, and a block of "seaview" flats is perfectly water based when the time comes. On another topic, how on Earth they think the Bargate Centre can carry on as retail is completely beyond me...[/p][/quote]Will it? with the idea to build walls off of the Bargate demolish those shops build a few shops but also build more flats will they leave the Bargate centre as it is?[/p][/quote]More flats? God help us! How can they leave the Bargate Centre as it is? It's run down, and well past its sellby date now and needs to be changed. Given the current high-street crisis, how can they even think about putting shops in? This was done by Leisure Boss Warwick Payne, whose idea of Leisure is shops, flats and officies. Also, just out of interest, if they build more walls off the Bargate, presumably to revitalise the heritage, will it actually be heritage because the walls will be brand new instead of in there medieval state? 03alpe01
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1:27pm Sat 16 Mar 13

phil maccavity says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
kingnotail wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
loosehead wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
RealTalkSouthampton wrote:
If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich.

People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on.

But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well!
I have a degree of sympathy with this post.
I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more.
This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want.
Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here.
One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor.
As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.
Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said?
I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they?
Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did?
this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it?
I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?
I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do
Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?
At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ".
But for how much longer?
The World Heritage accolade is under threat from the proposed Liverpool Waters deveopment scheme.
The Liverpool Waters scheme starts north of Princes dock and should have no adverse effect on the vista of the Pier Head area.
Liverpool like any other city has evolved with the passing of time and I personally think that re-development of those dock area's which are deemed derelict must take place subject to strict conditions.
The " World Heritage Site " consists of 6 historic area's of the city, so I think with reasonable planning and thought any impact will be negligible.
You are correct about the positioning of the planned Liverpool Waters scheme and there are differing views about whether the threat of UNESCO pulling Liverpool from their 'World Hertitage Site' list is correct.
Personally I think it is daft.
Fact is there is a threat and this has been discussed in many publications including the Architects Journal.
I am surprised you have not been following the debate in the Liverpool Echo.
Their journalist, David Bartlett, has written a number of articles on the matter
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kingnotail[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]phil maccavity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RealTalkSouthampton[/bold] wrote: If you could take all the hot air and negativity on most of these forums. Our city would be Super Rich. People moaned about west quay being built,ikea(wrong location) and so on. Any aspiring City weather in the UK or around the world has to have a mix of activities,venues and so on. But why don't the no people on these forums stop talking and start producing. Put your money where your mouth is, Buy/lease rent the sites and put the businesses their that you claim would be better. That way you would be proactive and then these forums would be very quiet cos we don't really do praise that well![/p][/quote]I have a degree of sympathy with this post. I have lived in a few places in the UK and visited many more. This area ticks a lot of boxes for me but appreciate it falls short of what others want. Presumably these naysayers have a choice to move away rather than moan and groan about how bad things are here. One of the major drawbacks for development in this region has been the lack of EC and UK Grant aid which has been concentrated north of the M4 corridor. As I has been pointed out before if Soton had received a fraction of the £2 billion given to Merseyside in the past 20 years then perhaps there would be a more reasonable comparison between the two cities.[/p][/quote]Phil why no response to the post where I showed you proof of what Williams said? I know both rowing clubs were up for the new facilities under the proposed snow dome & they are water based aren't they? Here's an idea for the Town Quay let or ask a rowing club to use it as a clubhouse & offices & allow them to build a boathouse with a slip into the river as the old Sea Cadets had/did? this would indeed be a water based activity wouldn't it? I'm in no way against strip clubs but this seems to be totally in the wrong place unless Williams thinks passengers off of the cruise ships want this type of entertainment?[/p][/quote]I can't wait to see the looks on the faces of families when they get off the Ferry/Cruise Ship and see a strip club and a large supercasino and nothing leisurewise for families to do[/p][/quote]Maybe they'll opt for Liverpool instead?[/p][/quote]At least the view as they embark / disembark here in Liverpool is a " World Heritage Site ".[/p][/quote]But for how much longer? The World Heritage accolade is under threat from the proposed Liverpool Waters deveopment scheme.[/p][/quote]The Liverpool Waters scheme starts north of Princes dock and should have no adverse effect on the vista of the Pier Head area. Liverpool like any other city has evolved with the passing of time and I personally think that re-development of those dock area's which are deemed derelict must take place subject to strict conditions. The " World Heritage Site " consists of 6 historic area's of the city, so I think with reasonable planning and thought any impact will be negligible.[/p][/quote]You are correct about the positioning of the planned Liverpool Waters scheme and there are differing views about whether the threat of UNESCO pulling Liverpool from their 'World Hertitage Site' list is correct. Personally I think it is daft. Fact is there is a threat and this has been discussed in many publications including the Architects Journal. I am surprised you have not been following the debate in the Liverpool Echo. Their journalist, David Bartlett, has written a number of articles on the matter phil maccavity
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2:07pm Tue 19 Mar 13

kiddynamite says...

Rowing Club! Really?! I love all your comments about how the city doesnt want this club, More like YOU dont want it because your sooo stuck up and rigid you could never entertain having a 'laugh'could you. Maybe you should go along when it opens and you will see its not seedy or dirty but its actually a nice place to have a drink and see beautiful ladies that want to be looked at! Get a life, give the world a break and it might not be as bad as you think! Or move to Winchester with the rest of the up their own!!!!!!!!!
Rowing Club! Really?! I love all your comments about how the city doesnt want this club, More like YOU dont want it because your sooo stuck up and rigid you could never entertain having a 'laugh'could you. Maybe you should go along when it opens and you will see its not seedy or dirty but its actually a nice place to have a drink and see beautiful ladies that want to be looked at! Get a life, give the world a break and it might not be as bad as you think! Or move to Winchester with the rest of the up their own!!!!!!!!! kiddynamite
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3:16pm Tue 19 Mar 13

loosehead says...

kiddynamite wrote:
Rowing Club! Really?! I love all your comments about how the city doesnt want this club, More like YOU dont want it because your sooo stuck up and rigid you could never entertain having a 'laugh'could you. Maybe you should go along when it opens and you will see its not seedy or dirty but its actually a nice place to have a drink and see beautiful ladies that want to be looked at! Get a life, give the world a break and it might not be as bad as you think! Or move to Winchester with the rest of the up their own!!!!!!!!!
Been to many strip clubs abroad so I'm not against them just think this is the wrong building & wrong place for this strip club
[quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: Rowing Club! Really?! I love all your comments about how the city doesnt want this club, More like YOU dont want it because your sooo stuck up and rigid you could never entertain having a 'laugh'could you. Maybe you should go along when it opens and you will see its not seedy or dirty but its actually a nice place to have a drink and see beautiful ladies that want to be looked at! Get a life, give the world a break and it might not be as bad as you think! Or move to Winchester with the rest of the up their own!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Been to many strip clubs abroad so I'm not against them just think this is the wrong building & wrong place for this strip club loosehead
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5:55pm Tue 19 Mar 13

lavinia somuch says...

solomum wrote:
If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.
as long as the girls are safe.....at least we will know where the perverts are.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: If this so called business man wants to run this kind of venue, then he should move to Amsterdam or Paris where his venture would fit in. More a sleaze ball than a business man.[/p][/quote]as long as the girls are safe.....at least we will know where the perverts are. lavinia somuch
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7:29pm Tue 19 Mar 13

03alpe01 says...

loosehead wrote:
kiddynamite wrote:
Rowing Club! Really?! I love all your comments about how the city doesnt want this club, More like YOU dont want it because your sooo stuck up and rigid you could never entertain having a 'laugh'could you. Maybe you should go along when it opens and you will see its not seedy or dirty but its actually a nice place to have a drink and see beautiful ladies that want to be looked at! Get a life, give the world a break and it might not be as bad as you think! Or move to Winchester with the rest of the up their own!!!!!!!!!
Been to many strip clubs abroad so I'm not against them just think this is the wrong building & wrong place for this strip club
Not too mention of course that there are already two fully functioning strip clubs within the city...
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kiddynamite[/bold] wrote: Rowing Club! Really?! I love all your comments about how the city doesnt want this club, More like YOU dont want it because your sooo stuck up and rigid you could never entertain having a 'laugh'could you. Maybe you should go along when it opens and you will see its not seedy or dirty but its actually a nice place to have a drink and see beautiful ladies that want to be looked at! Get a life, give the world a break and it might not be as bad as you think! Or move to Winchester with the rest of the up their own!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Been to many strip clubs abroad so I'm not against them just think this is the wrong building & wrong place for this strip club[/p][/quote]Not too mention of course that there are already two fully functioning strip clubs within the city... 03alpe01
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4:23pm Fri 22 Mar 13

Jimbo2012 says...

I'm not a prude but this is pretty disgusting.

An ICONIC building right on the waterfront too!

I sincerely hope this doesn't happen.

City of Culture, more like City of Sleaze!

I may write a letter to the paper...
I'm not a prude but this is pretty disgusting. An ICONIC building right on the waterfront too! I sincerely hope this doesn't happen. City of Culture, more like City of Sleaze! I may write a letter to the paper... Jimbo2012
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6:08pm Fri 22 Mar 13

loosehead says...

Even a restaurant would be better for this building wouldn't it?
They said Woolston was a residential area & the wrong area for the adults club well what about the residents around the Town Quay area?
Even a restaurant would be better for this building wouldn't it? They said Woolston was a residential area & the wrong area for the adults club well what about the residents around the Town Quay area? loosehead
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