MP calls for a decision on port's £150m expansion project

Southampton Port. Southampton Port.

MINISTERS have been urged to intervene to end the delay over Southampton’s vital port expansion.

The Marine Management Organisation (MMO) yesterday promised a decision “in the next few weeks”

– but this is more than a month after an announcement was expected.

It comes after Southampton Itchen MP John Denham met environment minister Richard Benyon at Westminster to set out the city’s case.

Associated British Ports wants to expand four of its berths to be able to accommodate larger tankers in a £150m project that would safeguard hundreds of jobs.

But the major works must be carried out between September and March to avoid disturbing migratory Atlantic salmon.

Mr Denham said: “I set out why it was now so urgent to get the clearance, with ABP saying that they must hear in the next few weeks at the most to be able to go ahead in September.

“We took the opportunity to remind him how urgent this investment is and the damage that would be done in Southampton and the rest of the country if it doesn’t get the go-ahead.”

Mr Benyon promised to ask for a definitive date by which the decision would be made.

Previous applications to expand have been mired in red tape, beset by mistakes from officials and held up by objections from rival Felixstowe Port.

Comments(16)

Just another reader says...
2:13pm Thu 19 Apr 12

Hurry up

Lone Ranger. says...
2:53pm Thu 19 Apr 12

Obviously the government are far too busy worrying about Pasty tax, Granny tax, Conservatory tax and Charity tax rip offs than trying to a secure future for hundreds of workers

southy says...
3:03pm Thu 19 Apr 12

"But the major works must be carried out between September and March to avoid disturbing migratory Atlantic salmon."

Some one should there reseach better, there are 3 Salmon and Sea Trout runs a year, first one starts in mid feb to March (known as the Winter Run), the second starts late April till Aug (which tend to be grilse, the Summer Run.) the thrid run starts late Aug, Sept till early Dec (known as the Autumn Run).
Smolt are present in the mid to lower tidal area all year round.

southy says...
3:05pm Thu 19 Apr 12

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Obviously the government are far too busy worrying about Pasty tax, Granny tax, Conservatory tax and Charity tax rip offs than trying to a secure future for hundreds of workers
I can't see what the real problem is, as this not so much as an extention but a reuse of berths for what they was built for in the first place.

Linesman says...
4:55pm Thu 19 Apr 12

southy wrote:
"But the major works must be carried out between September and March to avoid disturbing migratory Atlantic salmon."

Some one should there reseach better, there are 3 Salmon and Sea Trout runs a year, first one starts in mid feb to March (known as the Winter Run), the second starts late April till Aug (which tend to be grilse, the Summer Run.) the thrid run starts late Aug, Sept till early Dec (known as the Autumn Run).
Smolt are present in the mid to lower tidal area all year round.
That sounds a bit fishy to me Southy.

southy says...
5:07pm Thu 19 Apr 12

Linesman wrote:
southy wrote:
"But the major works must be carried out between September and March to avoid disturbing migratory Atlantic salmon."

Some one should there reseach better, there are 3 Salmon and Sea Trout runs a year, first one starts in mid feb to March (known as the Winter Run), the second starts late April till Aug (which tend to be grilse, the Summer Run.) the thrid run starts late Aug, Sept till early Dec (known as the Autumn Run).
Smolt are present in the mid to lower tidal area all year round.
That sounds a bit fishy to me Southy.
But fact Linesman, its the same with all UK rivers that have Salmon and Sea Trout running up them.

acid drop says...
7:18pm Thu 19 Apr 12

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Obviously the government are far too busy worrying about Pasty tax, Granny tax, Conservatory tax and Charity tax rip offs than trying to a secure future for hundreds of workers
How true

phil maccavity says...
10:55pm Thu 19 Apr 12

southy wrote:
"But the major works must be carried out between September and March to avoid disturbing migratory Atlantic salmon."

Some one should there reseach better, there are 3 Salmon and Sea Trout runs a year, first one starts in mid feb to March (known as the Winter Run), the second starts late April till Aug (which tend to be grilse, the Summer Run.) the thrid run starts late Aug, Sept till early Dec (known as the Autumn Run).
Smolt are present in the mid to lower tidal area all year round.
Southy
Suggest you contact the Authorities and advise them!!
btw as someone who purports to know all there is to know about marine matters, presume you know which major English river is supposed to have the best salmon fishing?

phil maccavity says...
11:00pm Thu 19 Apr 12

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Obviously the government are far too busy worrying about Pasty tax, Granny tax, Conservatory tax and Charity tax rip offs than trying to a secure future for hundreds of workers
I can't see what the real problem is, as this not so much as an extention but a reuse of berths for what they was built for in the first place.
But the berths and approach channel have to be dredged to accomodate deeper draft vessels and the necessary permissions have to be granted.

southy says...
8:25am Fri 20 Apr 12

phil maccavity wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Obviously the government are far too busy worrying about Pasty tax, Granny tax, Conservatory tax and Charity tax rip offs than trying to a secure future for hundreds of workers
I can't see what the real problem is, as this not so much as an extention but a reuse of berths for what they was built for in the first place.
But the berths and approach channel have to be dredged to accomodate deeper draft vessels and the necessary permissions have to be granted.
No they are all ready down to the max depth.
The only problem was the piles was sinking into the river bed, that job as all ready been done

southy says...
8:42am Fri 20 Apr 12

phil maccavity wrote:
southy wrote:
"But the major works must be carried out between September and March to avoid disturbing migratory Atlantic salmon."

Some one should there reseach better, there are 3 Salmon and Sea Trout runs a year, first one starts in mid feb to March (known as the Winter Run), the second starts late April till Aug (which tend to be grilse, the Summer Run.) the thrid run starts late Aug, Sept till early Dec (known as the Autumn Run).
Smolt are present in the mid to lower tidal area all year round.
Southy
Suggest you contact the Authorities and advise them!!
btw as someone who purports to know all there is to know about marine matters, presume you know which major English river is supposed to have the best salmon fishing?
The Tyne and Tee's is regarded as the Best Salmon rivers in the UK, the River Test is regard to be the best Sea Trout river in the UK and in the British Isles, The River Shannon is said to be the best Salmon river in the British Isles.
Don't need to contact the Authorities they all ready know, I known about the 3 runs since the 60's and so did Southern Water when they had control of the rivers in there area, all rivers on this side of the Atlantic are the same all have 3 runs, the only exception is when a river gets a Salmon or Sea Trout running up them for the first time.

phil maccavity says...
9:46am Fri 20 Apr 12

southy wrote:
phil maccavity wrote:
southy wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Obviously the government are far too busy worrying about Pasty tax, Granny tax, Conservatory tax and Charity tax rip offs than trying to a secure future for hundreds of workers
I can't see what the real problem is, as this not so much as an extention but a reuse of berths for what they was built for in the first place.
But the berths and approach channel have to be dredged to accomodate deeper draft vessels and the necessary permissions have to be granted.
No they are all ready down to the max depth.
The only problem was the piles was sinking into the river bed, that job as all ready been done
'Already down to maximum depths'?????????????
???
You had better inform the Port and all the other authorities.
Wonder why they have publically announced that they intend to deepen 201/2 berths from 10.2-12.2m to 16.4m and dredge the main navigation channel down from 12.6 to 16.4m for use by container vessels!!!!!!!!!

southy says...
1:28pm Fri 20 Apr 12

11 meters below low water level Phil, all they will be doing is removing the build up of soft silt

phil maccavity says...
4:47pm Fri 20 Apr 12

You said that the berths were already down to maximum depth
However the port have put in an application to dredge down a further 4 metres so your original comment that maximum depth had been achieved was incorrect

WoolstonSean says...
8:35pm Sat 21 Apr 12

I can not believe this topic has gone all fishy regarding Salmon and that no one has commented on the fact that the article says larger tankers!

What the hell is going at the Echo recently with stupid mistakes like this, surely the shipping editor should know its larger containerships not 'tankers' that the berths are being modified for.

Note to editor if your getting bored with your job or your lacking any enthusiasm or knowledge for the port of Southampton give me a call as I will be willing take on your job!

phil maccavity says...
5:55pm Sun 22 Apr 12

It also says permission to expand four of its berths
The expansion involves 2 berths ie 201/2

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