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Perry’s promise cuts no ice with Lib-Dem rivals
Keeping his pledge to take the X66 bus from Romsey to Winchester for meetings of the county council in Winchester, Roy Perry boarded the 8.07am from Romsey bus station on Thursday.
It arrived on time at 8.39 at Winchester railway station, a short walk from HCC offices: plenty of time for the 10am meeting.
At the Test Valley Hampshire Action Team meeting, Mr Perry invited councillors from the neighbouring divisions of Romsey Town and North Baddesley to join him on the X66 bus to make it an all-party intitiative.
But neither Cllr Cooper, from Romsey, nor Cllr Dowden, from the North Baddesley division, both Liberal-Democrats, were prepared to take the bus. So Roy travelled alone.
In the chamber, when Mr Perry said the way to save services was to use them, Cllr Cooper criticised him, saying Cllr Perry's wife had driven him from Wellow to the bus station, reducing the carbon benefit.
Answering that charge Roy Perry said: "I am very grateful for all the support my wife gives me and there was no other practical way at that time for me to get from Wellow to Romsey. Cllr Cooper lives close enough to have walked.
"I appreciate my use was just a gesture, but if everybody used the bus, even if only now and again, that would make it more viable. I was very impressed by the efficiency of the service.
"For many users, it is a crucial lifeline and I'm keen for HCC to play its part in helping its retention. All the while the route is under threat, I will continue to do my bit by using it for council meetings. Maybe one day Cllr Cooper will join me."
10:23am Thursday 17th April 2008
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CommentPosted by: Rich on 1:09pm Thu 17 Apr 08
Not much happened in Romsey this week if this makes the news.
Not much happened in Romsey this week if this makes the news.
Posted by: Mellow Wellow on 3:22pm Thu 17 Apr 08
[italic]Cllr Perry's wife had driven him from Wellow to the bus station, reducing the carbon benefit[/italic]
[bold]Why didn't Prospective Conservative candidate Mrs Caroline Knokes drive him to Romsey on the way to Andover ?
More ego tripping gratuitous publicity puff from the Perry spinners...question, if he charged the mileage or claimed a bus fare?
and no mention if he came back by bus !
Why didn't he cycle on one of the underused bike paths that cost tax payers millions?[/bold]
Cllr Perry's wife had driven him from Wellow to the bus station, reducing the carbon benefit
Why didn't Prospective Conservative candidate Mrs Caroline Knokes drive him to Romsey on the way to Andover ?
More ego tripping gratuitous publicity puff from the Perry spinners...question, if he charged the mileage or claimed a bus fare?
and no mention if he came back by bus !
Why didn't he cycle on one of the underused bike paths that cost tax payers millions? Posted by: Rousseau, Test Valley on 1:10pm Fri 18 Apr 08
The question before me is: 'whether Mr Perry's latest political scheme has the effect of helping or hindering the way people view local politicians', which side am I to take?
I feel the difficulty of treating this report fittingly, is that Mr Perry's actions are not designed for the public but for himself.
As we make our way towards the county elections next year, one has the impression that he is using cheep parlour tricks to try and secure his position. Like the magicians of the 18th Century who baffled audiences with super natural phenomena, in an attempt to increase their fame and notoriety; Mr Perry continues to pull white elephants out of his metaphorical political hat. Unfortunately, he is not as adept as the likes of Harry Kellar who dazed audiences with his levitation shows.
One thing that Mr Perry seems to be skilled at is creating the illusion that he is doing something for the public. The reality is quite different.
The question before me is: 'whether Mr Perry's latest political scheme has the effect of helping or hindering the way people view local politicians', which side am I to take?
I feel the difficulty of treating this report fittingly, is that Mr Perry's actions are not designed for the public but for himself.
As we make our way towards the county elections next year, one has the impression that he is using cheep parlour tricks to try and secure his position. Like the magicians of the 18th Century who baffled audiences with super natural phenomena, in an attempt to increase their fame and notoriety; Mr Perry continues to pull white elephants out of his metaphorical political hat. Unfortunately, he is not as adept as the likes of Harry Kellar who dazed audiences with his levitation shows.
One thing that Mr Perry seems to be skilled at is creating the illusion that he is doing something for the public. The reality is quite different.
Posted by: Mellow Wellow on 6:09pm Fri 18 Apr 08
You can add two more illusionists
Mrs Veronica Perry and Mrs Caroline Nokes.
The whole family treat politics as an easy living rather than a dedicated vocation.
You can add two more illusionists
Mrs Veronica Perry and Mrs Caroline Nokes.
The whole family treat politics as an easy living rather than a dedicated vocation.
Posted by: Rousseau, Test Valley on 8:54am Sat 19 Apr 08
The ostentatiously pious Mrs Nokes is just a reincarnation of her father and mother.
They seemed to want to run the risk of ridicule every time that they appear in the press.
Mr Perry and Mrs Nokes ride on the foamy waves of politics, each one waiting to see what story is washed up on the shore before they scavenge through it and present it as their own idea.
The ostentatiously pious Mrs Nokes is just a reincarnation of her father and mother.
They seemed to want to run the risk of ridicule every time that they appear in the press.
Mr Perry and Mrs Nokes ride on the foamy waves of politics, each one waiting to see what story is washed up on the shore before they scavenge through it and present it as their own idea.
Posted by: Mellow from Wellow on 10:33am Sat 19 Apr 08
Time for the tumbrel Mr Rousseau me thinks
Time for the tumbrel Mr Rousseau me thinks
Posted by: Rousseau, Test Valley on 11:54am Sat 19 Apr 08
That depends on what your definition of the 'Tumbrel' is?
That depends on what your definition of the 'Tumbrel' is?
Posted by: Louise on 10:34am Mon 21 Apr 08
The fatal flaw in this article - and Hampshire County Councils false promise to help the X66 services that were under threat - is that the 8.07am that Mr Perry took is [bold]NOT[/bold] even one of the times under threat. This is a non-article - usual Advertiser rusbbish instead of reporting the facts about HCC mis-using money to help Stagecoach.
The fatal flaw in this article - and Hampshire County Councils false promise to help the X66 services that were under threat - is that the 8.07am that Mr Perry took is
NOT even one of the times under threat. This is a non-article - usual Advertiser rusbbish instead of reporting the facts about HCC mis-using money to help Stagecoach.
Posted by: Rousseau, Test Valley on 5:22pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Do the Romsey Advertiser know this?
Do the Romsey Advertiser know this?
Posted by: Louise on 7:04pm Mon 21 Apr 08
Yes the Advertiser do know this - nor have they reported that the leaflets Stagecoach and HCC promised to distribute along the bus route did not get distributed, nor did they report that the Save Our Bus people met with the DoT a few weeks ago to try and save the commutor bus, read the save our bus website for the up-to-date info the paper does not report it.
Yes the Advertiser do know this - nor have they reported that the leaflets Stagecoach and HCC promised to distribute along the bus route did not get distributed, nor did they report that the Save Our Bus people met with the DoT a few weeks ago to try and save the commutor bus, read the save our bus website for the up-to-date info the paper does not report it.
Posted by: Mellow Wellow on 10:23am Tue 22 Apr 08
Did the Perry Spinners ghost the article for the Advertiser ?
Did the Perry Spinners ghost the article for the Advertiser ?
Posted by: Rousseau, Test Valley on 9:22pm Tue 22 Apr 08
I have noticed that there is a certain regularity to news items from politicians who support a certain colour. Call me cynical but this attitude of mind for any local newspaper is not only disastrous in its consequences to its intellectual life but unsound in its premise to give certain objectivity to the news, especially when reporting local issues. For this stance ensures that people think that a particular point of view is correct; in this case Mr Perry’s. The RA should allow each juror (sorry reader) to bring his/her own verdict to the table after they know all the facts.
I have noticed that there is a certain regularity to news items from politicians who support a certain colour. Call me cynical but this attitude of mind for any local newspaper is not only disastrous in its consequences to its intellectual life but unsound in its premise to give certain objectivity to the news, especially when reporting local issues. For this stance ensures that people think that a particular point of view is correct; in this case Mr Perry’s. The RA should allow each juror (sorry reader) to bring his/her own verdict to the table after they know all the facts.
Posted by: Cyril, Romsey constituency on 5:12pm Thu 24 Apr 08
Sounds like the people above have got time to kill in slating others. Bet they don't use public transport as part of leading their shallow lives. I can't imagine the likes of Alan Dowden using the bus and sitting next to Roy Perry. He's nothing but a bitter old man who likes to sue his local community association for being so horrid to him, only to get landed with the costs!
Sounds like the people above have got time to kill in slating others. Bet they don't use public transport as part of leading their shallow lives. I can't imagine the likes of Alan Dowden using the bus and sitting next to Roy Perry. He's nothing but a bitter old man who likes to sue his local community association for being so horrid to him, only to get landed with the costs!
Posted by: Colin Wade, Romsey on 6:52pm Thu 24 Apr 08
The comments on this site are getting increasingly disturbed. Maybe the local Lib Dems would be better off concentrating on getting a better performance out of their hapless leader rather than **** to each on this site.
The comments on this site are getting increasingly disturbed. Maybe the local Lib Dems would be better off concentrating on getting a better performance out of their hapless leader rather than **** to each on this site.
Posted by: Tory Boy, Miles on 7:12am Fri 25 Apr 08
Speaking of Magicians, will Sandra Gidley do a disappearing act when she loses the next election? I bet the comments on this blog are her paid staff in disguise, spending her office expenses trawling this site.
Fortunately I have had the pleasure in working with both Roy and Caroline, and their commitment to Romsey and the people of Romsey is exemplary. I find it most humorous that there our a few individuals who obviously feel very threatened by the extremely likely possibility of a Tory MP for Romsey.
The commentators here need to get on with their lives and stop with this meaningless banter. However we should all agree on one thing; (x66)Use it, or lose it. That’s the message Mr Perry was getting across. It can be misconstrued or twisted however you like.
Speaking of Magicians, will Sandra Gidley do a disappearing act when she loses the next election? I bet the comments on this blog are her paid staff in disguise, spending her office expenses trawling this site.
Fortunately I have had the pleasure in working with both Roy and Caroline, and their commitment to Romsey and the people of Romsey is exemplary. I find it most humorous that there our a few individuals who obviously feel very threatened by the extremely likely possibility of a Tory MP for Romsey.
The commentators here need to get on with their lives and stop with this meaningless banter. However we should all agree on one thing; (x66)Use it, or lose it. That’s the message Mr Perry was getting across. It can be misconstrued or twisted however you like.
Posted by: Cyril, Romsey constituency on 3:37pm Fri 25 Apr 08
People like them I class as "liberals in denial." They prefer to look through a telescope with their eyes shut, pretending that nothing is wrong. Bit like their stance on immigration.
People like them I class as "liberals in denial." They prefer to look through a telescope with their eyes shut, pretending that nothing is wrong. Bit like their stance on immigration.
Posted by: Rousseau, Test Valley on 8:57pm Fri 25 Apr 08
The notorious old persona of Conservatism rears its ugly head again, costumed afresh by supporters of Mr Perry and Mrs Nokes, I guess. I wondered how long it would take someone to bring Mr Dowden into the fray. It is with sublime irony that Cyril launched an attack on Mr D. I did chuckle at his remarks – standing on the rubble of the political barricade Cyril bears his chest, urging us to stop maligning the Tory faithful and take up metaphorical arms against Mr Perry’s Liberal Democrat nemesis. The unenviable dreariness of individuals like Cyril who throw themselves in front of their political heroes in an attempt to deflect the cruel bullets of criticism!
Wasn’t Mr Dowden vindicated of bringing his position of councillor in to disrepute? Did not the Standards Board for England dismiss the claims of local Conservative activists that he besmirched a fellow Tory? Indeed one has to say that I have the feeling that Test Valley Conservatives have nothing better to do than try to tarnish other politicians because they seek self- exculpation.
The notorious old persona of Conservatism rears its ugly head again, costumed afresh by supporters of Mr Perry and Mrs Nokes, I guess. I wondered how long it would take someone to bring Mr Dowden into the fray. It is with sublime irony that Cyril launched an attack on Mr D. I did chuckle at his remarks – standing on the rubble of the political barricade Cyril bears his chest, urging us to stop maligning the Tory faithful and take up metaphorical arms against Mr Perry’s Liberal Democrat nemesis. The unenviable dreariness of individuals like Cyril who throw themselves in front of their political heroes in an attempt to deflect the cruel bullets of criticism!
Wasn’t Mr Dowden vindicated of bringing his position of councillor in to disrepute? Did not the Standards Board for England dismiss the claims of local Conservative activists that he besmirched a fellow Tory? Indeed one has to say that I have the feeling that Test Valley Conservatives have nothing better to do than try to tarnish other politicians because they seek self- exculpation.
Posted by: Louise on 9:17pm Sat 26 Apr 08
mmm...well thankfully I am neither a Lib Dem employee of a Conservative employee (or anyother other party for that matter), my comments were purely about the facts surrounding the article and the bus which seemed to have been forgotton in the RAd news blackout. From what these comments are saying though it sounds like what Rosmey really needs is a 3rd candidate or even a 4th candidate then there might be a choice for the town and those not interested in party politics, there has to be a better reason for voting for someone other than each party hates the other, how about whats best for Romsey, just a thought...back to the bus.
mmm...well thankfully I am neither a Lib Dem employee of a Conservative employee (or anyother other party for that matter), my comments were purely about the facts surrounding the article and the bus which seemed to have been forgotton in the RAd news blackout. From what these comments are saying though it sounds like what Rosmey really needs is a 3rd candidate or even a 4th candidate then there might be a choice for the town and those not interested in party politics, there has to be a better reason for voting for someone other than each party hates the other, how about whats best for Romsey, just a thought...back to the bus.
Posted by: Cyril, Romsey constituency on 12:16pm Mon 28 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Rousseau[/bold] wrote:
The notorious old persona of Conservatism rears its ugly head again, costumed afresh by supporters of Mr Perry and Mrs Nokes, I guess. I wondered how long it would take someone to bring Mr Dowden into the fray. It is with sublime irony that Cyril launched an attack on Mr D. I did chuckle at his remarks – standing on the rubble of the political barricade Cyril bears his chest, urging us to stop maligning the Tory faithful and take up metaphorical arms against Mr Perry’s Liberal Democrat nemesis. The unenviable dreariness of individuals like Cyril who throw themselves in front of their political heroes in an attempt to deflect the cruel bullets of criticism! Wasn’t Mr Dowden vindicated of bringing his position of councillor in to disrepute? Did not the Standards Board for England dismiss the claims of local Conservative activists that he besmirched a fellow Tory? Indeed one has to say that I have the feeling that Test Valley Conservatives have nothing better to do than try to tarnish other politicians because they seek self- exculpation. [/quote] Nicely written M.Rousseau. Unfortunately, I'm not a member of any political party and have no intentions. Local party politics is just nothing but tit-for-tat banter. If Mr Perry wants to use the bus servuce then good luck to him. However, I don't like seeing unfair comment where it's not due and the Lib-dems I have to say are good at doing this. If you have a problem, them ask them who tore down opposition posters at the last election, particularly around Valley Park? I know because I saw them do it!! You might be surprised becuase such individuals who call themselves Democrats will do anything to make sure their candidate wins, no matter how dirty things might get.
Rousseau wrote:
The notorious old persona of Conservatism rears its ugly head again, costumed afresh by supporters of Mr Perry and Mrs Nokes, I guess. I wondered how long it would take someone to bring Mr Dowden into the fray. It is with sublime irony that Cyril launched an attack on Mr D. I did chuckle at his remarks – standing on the rubble of the political barricade Cyril bears his chest, urging us to stop maligning the Tory faithful and take up metaphorical arms against Mr Perry’s Liberal Democrat nemesis. The unenviable dreariness of individuals like Cyril who throw themselves in front of their political heroes in an attempt to deflect the cruel bullets of criticism! Wasn’t Mr Dowden vindicated of bringing his position of councillor in to disrepute? Did not the Standards Board for England dismiss the claims of local Conservative activists that he besmirched a fellow Tory? Indeed one has to say that I have the feeling that Test Valley Conservatives have nothing better to do than try to tarnish other politicians because they seek self- exculpation.
Nicely written M.Rousseau. Unfortunately, I'm not a member of any political party and have no intentions. Local party politics is just nothing but tit-for-tat banter. If Mr Perry wants to use the bus servuce then good luck to him. However, I don't like seeing unfair comment where it's not due and the Lib-dems I have to say are good at doing this. If you have a problem, them ask them who tore down opposition posters at the last election, particularly around Valley Park? I know because I saw them do it!! You might be surprised becuase such individuals who call themselves Democrats will do anything to make sure their candidate wins, no matter how dirty things might get.
Posted by: Romsey Constituent, Romsey Extra on 12:11pm Wed 30 Apr 08
Is it not amazing that this 'debate',about who uses the 66 bus generates more heated argument than the report that for the important Romsey Extra Parish meeting on the Abbotswood planning application, no Liberal councillors were present.
Is it not amazing that this 'debate',about who uses the 66 bus generates more heated argument than the report that for the important Romsey Extra Parish meeting on the Abbotswood planning application, no Liberal councillors were present.
Posted by: Jules, Romsey constituency on 4:42pm Wed 30 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Rousseau[/bold] wrote:
The question before me is: 'whether Mr Perry's latest political scheme has the effect of helping or hindering the way people view local politicians', which side am I to take? I feel the difficulty of treating this report fittingly, is that Mr Perry's actions are not designed for the public but for himself. As we make our way towards the county elections next year, one has the impression that he is using cheep parlour tricks to try and secure his position. Like the magicians of the 18th Century who baffled audiences with super natural phenomena, in an attempt to increase their fame and notoriety; Mr Perry continues to pull white elephants out of his metaphorical political hat. Unfortunately, he is not as adept as the likes of Harry Kellar who dazed audiences with his levitation shows. One thing that Mr Perry seems to be skilled at is creating the illusion that he is doing something for the public. The reality is quite different. [/quote] Sounds like someone put a ferret down Rousseau's trousers. That would daze an audience I'm sure :)
Rousseau wrote:
The question before me is: 'whether Mr Perry's latest political scheme has the effect of helping or hindering the way people view local politicians', which side am I to take? I feel the difficulty of treating this report fittingly, is that Mr Perry's actions are not designed for the public but for himself. As we make our way towards the county elections next year, one has the impression that he is using cheep parlour tricks to try and secure his position. Like the magicians of the 18th Century who baffled audiences with super natural phenomena, in an attempt to increase their fame and notoriety; Mr Perry continues to pull white elephants out of his metaphorical political hat. Unfortunately, he is not as adept as the likes of Harry Kellar who dazed audiences with his levitation shows. One thing that Mr Perry seems to be skilled at is creating the illusion that he is doing something for the public. The reality is quite different.
Sounds like someone put a ferret down Rousseau's trousers. That would daze an audience I'm sure :)
Posted by: Rousseau, Test Valley on 10:53pm Mon 5 May 08
Jules - Try to speak the language of the commomn man, not one which others cannot possibly understand.
Am I to believe that you are a supporter of Mr Perry?
Jules - Try to speak the language of the commomn man, not one which others cannot possibly understand.
Am I to believe that you are a supporter of Mr Perry?
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