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Hull reportedly join chase for John
SAINTS striker Stern John is today being linked with a return to the Premier League with newly promoted Hull City.
Reports emanating from his native Trinidad & Tobago say the Tigers have joined the race to sign John, who was Saints' top scorer last term.
According to the Trinidad & Tobago Express, Saints' Championship rivals Watford and a club in Saudi Arabia are among those to have already expressed an interest in the 31 year old.
Hull are reportedly the latest to do so though are said to consider that Saints' asking price is too high.
Watford, it is thought, cannot match John's current wages.
John told Trinidad & Tobago Football Federation media officer Shaun Fuentes: "I know there have been a few clubs showing interest because I did enough last season by getting among the goals and helping Southampton stay up.
"But at the moment there's nothing much I can say. At the moment I'm with Southampton.
"The main thing for me is to ensure I take care of myself and start the season well and try to do my best for Trinidad and Tobago in the World Cup qualifiers.
"Going to another World Cup is a big part of my hopes."
11:00am Friday 18th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: Saint on 11:27am Fri 18 Jul 08
No way hull can f'ck off
Posted by: dangerousMike, looking back over my shoulder on 11:36am Fri 18 Jul 08
Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench.
Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench.
Posted by: SFC4EVA, Soton on 11:38am Fri 18 Jul 08
We need to keep this proven goalscorer!
We need to keep this proven goalscorer!
Posted by: StMark, Northampton on 11:42am Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote:
Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench. [/quote] I agree Mike, sounds like he won't be commitetted enough this season. I think we've got enough combined Strike power without him. If Watford can't afford his wages, then how can we??
Also in a year, he probably won't be worth anything anyway.
dangerousMike wrote:
Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench.
I agree Mike, sounds like he won't be commitetted enough this season. I think we've got enough combined Strike power without him. If Watford can't afford his wages, then how can we??
Also in a year, he probably won't be worth anything anyway.
Posted by: SFC4EVA, Soton on 11:45am Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote:
Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench. [/quote] What?! Are you reading a different article?!
All he has said is that he knows people are looking at him and have made offers because he had a good season, which he did!
Then he said is still with Sputhampton and his main priority is to start the season well with Saints!
We don't need support like yours! Bet you are one of the 'Boo Boys' that get on the players back first mistake they make!
dangerousMike wrote:
Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench.
What?! Are you reading a different article?!
All he has said is that he knows people are looking at him and have made offers because he had a good season, which he did!
Then he said is still with Sputhampton and his main priority is to start the season well with Saints!
We don't need support like yours! Bet you are one of the 'Boo Boys' that get on the players back first mistake they make!
Posted by: Ric Flair on 11:49am Fri 18 Jul 08
Maybe we could sell him to Barcelona For £20m, Who knows.
Maybe we could sell him to Barcelona For £20m, Who knows.
Posted by: rational on 11:52am Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote: Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench. [/quote] What?! Are you reading a different article?! All he has said is that he knows people are looking at him and have made offers because he had a good season, which he did! Then he said is still with Sputhampton and his main priority is to start the season well with Saints! We don't need support like yours! Bet you are one of the 'Boo Boys' that get on the players back first mistake they make![/quote] Actually he didn't say "start the season well with Saints".
He said "start the season well and try to do my best for Trinidad and Tobago".
Seems clear where his loyalty lies......
SFC4EVA wrote:
dangerousMike wrote: Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench.
What?! Are you reading a different article?! All he has said is that he knows people are looking at him and have made offers because he had a good season, which he did! Then he said is still with Sputhampton and his main priority is to start the season well with Saints! We don't need support like yours! Bet you are one of the 'Boo Boys' that get on the players back first mistake they make!
Actually he didn't say "start the season well with Saints".
He said "start the season well and try to do my best for Trinidad and Tobago".
Seems clear where his loyalty lies......
Posted by: dangerousMike, look in the sky; is it a bird? on 11:55am Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote: Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench. [/quote] What?! Are you reading a different article?! All he has said is that he knows people are looking at him and have made offers because he had a good season, which he did! Then he said is still with Sputhampton and his main priority is to start the season well with Saints! We don't need support like yours! Bet you are one of the 'Boo Boys' that get on the players back first mistake they make![/quote] So you think it is acceptable to talk yourself up in the media in this manner, why do it if he intends to stay at the club? A simple "no comment" or perhaps a denial of his intentions to leave the club would have been sufficient. By talking in this way the inferrence is the same as saying I want out. The fact is John is a mercenry who sees the chance to promote himself. If you cant read around the artical dont bother posting on here. We had a good deal bringing him in from Sunderland and it will be a good deal if we sell him.
SFC4EVA wrote:
dangerousMike wrote: Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench.
What?! Are you reading a different article?! All he has said is that he knows people are looking at him and have made offers because he had a good season, which he did! Then he said is still with Sputhampton and his main priority is to start the season well with Saints! We don't need support like yours! Bet you are one of the 'Boo Boys' that get on the players back first mistake they make!
So you think it is acceptable to talk yourself up in the media in this manner, why do it if he intends to stay at the club? A simple "no comment" or perhaps a denial of his intentions to leave the club would have been sufficient. By talking in this way the inferrence is the same as saying I want out. The fact is John is a mercenry who sees the chance to promote himself. If you cant read around the artical dont bother posting on here. We had a good deal bringing him in from Sunderland and it will be a good deal if we sell him.
Posted by: Wazza on 12:05pm Fri 18 Jul 08
He doesn't sound particularly interested in staying but in reality we have to keep him. To say that we have adequate cover up front is wishful thinking. Our other strikers are far too lightweight for this league, that much was proven last season. At very least if he goes we HAVE to spend whatever cash we have on getting a big reliable hitman. Without Stern or someone else weighing in with 15+ goals in a season we will be in trouble.
He doesn't sound particularly interested in staying but in reality we have to keep him. To say that we have adequate cover up front is wishful thinking. Our other strikers are far too lightweight for this league, that much was proven last season. At very least if he goes we HAVE to spend whatever cash we have on getting a big reliable hitman. Without Stern or someone else weighing in with 15+ goals in a season we will be in trouble.
Posted by: Saint on 12:06pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Saint[/bold] wrote:
No way hull can f'ck off[/quote] This is not me. More so with this colourful language.
Saint wrote:
No way hull can f'ck off
This is not me. More so with this colourful language.
Posted by: Paddy B The Exiled Saint., Salop England on 12:06pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I sometimes wonder on which planet football supporters live. In professional sport, all players go to wherever thwy can get the most for their skills. Their loyalty is to themselves and their families. Likewise for managers and all professional staff.
Would any of those who write criticising players intentions pass up an opportunity of financial improvement in thier work? I thnk not.
The only people who are loyal to a sporting club are the fans and only the fans. Everyone else cannot afford to be.
I sometimes wonder on which planet football supporters live. In professional sport, all players go to wherever thwy can get the most for their skills. Their loyalty is to themselves and their families. Likewise for managers and all professional staff.
Would any of those who write criticising players intentions pass up an opportunity of financial improvement in thier work? I thnk not.
The only people who are loyal to a sporting club are the fans and only the fans. Everyone else cannot afford to be.
Posted by: Lincoln Saint, Chapel Stand on 12:08pm Fri 18 Jul 08
For anybody that actually watched SJ play last season would have seen that yes he scored goals but missed twice as many. His work rate was non existent and age is clearly not on his side. Let him go, bring in some valuable cash and lets play players who are proud to wear the saints shirt and will run themselves into the ground for the cause. Bye bye SJ and good riddance. Oh and please take Kelvin with you. COYR
For anybody that actually watched SJ play last season would have seen that yes he scored goals but missed twice as many. His work rate was non existent and age is clearly not on his side. Let him go, bring in some valuable cash and lets play players who are proud to wear the saints shirt and will run themselves into the ground for the cause. Bye bye SJ and good riddance. Oh and please take Kelvin with you. COYR
Posted by: dangerousMike, going to Trinidad and Tobago to read their papers then I can be a reporter for the Echo on 12:16pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Paddy B The Exiled Saint.[/bold] wrote:
I sometimes wonder on which planet football supporters live. In professional sport, all players go to wherever thwy can get the most for their skills. Their loyalty is to themselves and their families. Likewise for managers and all professional staff. Would any of those who write criticising players intentions pass up an opportunity of financial improvement in thier work? I thnk not. The only people who are loyal to a sporting club are the fans and only the fans. Everyone else cannot afford to be. [/quote] Don't get me wrong i have no problem with a professional player wanting to leave a club, so long as they are professional about doing so. Talking about your intentions to the media is wrong at any level of the game. It is unprofessional and moreover insulting to those fans who's income pay their wages. No fans as many of the saints players are discovering means no need for them at the club.
Paddy B The Exiled Saint. wrote:
I sometimes wonder on which planet football supporters live. In professional sport, all players go to wherever thwy can get the most for their skills. Their loyalty is to themselves and their families. Likewise for managers and all professional staff. Would any of those who write criticising players intentions pass up an opportunity of financial improvement in thier work? I thnk not. The only people who are loyal to a sporting club are the fans and only the fans. Everyone else cannot afford to be.
Don't get me wrong i have no problem with a professional player wanting to leave a club, so long as they are professional about doing so. Talking about your intentions to the media is wrong at any level of the game. It is unprofessional and moreover insulting to those fans who's income pay their wages. No fans as many of the saints players are discovering means no need for them at the club.
Posted by: St. Philly, Northam on 12:16pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Lincoln Saint[/bold] wrote:
For anybody that actually watched SJ play last season would have seen that yes he scored goals but missed twice as many. His work rate was non existent and age is clearly not on his side. Let him go, bring in some valuable cash and lets play players who are proud to wear the saints shirt and will run themselves into the ground for the cause. Bye bye SJ and good riddance. Oh and please take Kelvin with you. COYR[/quote] So which strikers would you like to keep ?
Rasiak, who is slower, lazier and scores less at home than John, and couldn't link a daisy chain. BWP, who is lazy, couldn't hit the Independance of the seas from 10 ft away and is constantly off-side. Or even Marek, who can score goals but has had a lean one of late...
Mmm.. if John goes, so does our goal threat. Rasiak should go first !
Lincoln Saint wrote:
For anybody that actually watched SJ play last season would have seen that yes he scored goals but missed twice as many. His work rate was non existent and age is clearly not on his side. Let him go, bring in some valuable cash and lets play players who are proud to wear the saints shirt and will run themselves into the ground for the cause. Bye bye SJ and good riddance. Oh and please take Kelvin with you. COYR
So which strikers would you like to keep ?
Rasiak, who is slower, lazier and scores less at home than John, and couldn't link a daisy chain. BWP, who is lazy, couldn't hit the Independance of the seas from 10 ft away and is constantly off-side. Or even Marek, who can score goals but has had a lean one of late...
Mmm.. if John goes, so does our goal threat. Rasiak should go first !
Posted by: Jack Bourne, Weymouth on 12:17pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off.
Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off.
Posted by: Saint on 12:20pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Saint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Saint[/bold] wrote: No way hull can f'ck off[/quote] This is not me. More so with this colourful language.[/quote] thats my name, so you have a different name
Saint wrote:
Saint wrote: No way hull can f'ck off
This is not me. More so with this colourful language.
thats my name, so you have a different name
Posted by: dangerousMike, Obvious question but... on 12:21pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jack Bourne[/bold] wrote:
Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. [/quote] How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.
Jack Bourne wrote:
Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off.
How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.
Posted by: StMark, Northampton on 12:22pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote:
He doesn't sound particularly interested in staying but in reality we have to keep him. To say that we have adequate cover up front is wishful thinking. Our other strikers are far too lightweight for this league, that much was proven last season. At very least if he goes we HAVE to spend whatever cash we have on getting a big reliable hitman. Without Stern or someone else weighing in with 15+ goals in a season we will be in trouble.[/quote] Not sure if I totally agree Wazza. I think Greg and Saga are probably worth 15-20 goals between them with Lallana and DMG weighing in with a few.
Mainly though I think that Stern's apparent apathy could be a problem if, deep down he wants to go which it sounds like he does.
Wazza wrote:
He doesn't sound particularly interested in staying but in reality we have to keep him. To say that we have adequate cover up front is wishful thinking. Our other strikers are far too lightweight for this league, that much was proven last season. At very least if he goes we HAVE to spend whatever cash we have on getting a big reliable hitman. Without Stern or someone else weighing in with 15+ goals in a season we will be in trouble.
Not sure if I totally agree Wazza. I think Greg and Saga are probably worth 15-20 goals between them with Lallana and DMG weighing in with a few.
Mainly though I think that Stern's apparent apathy could be a problem if, deep down he wants to go which it sounds like he does.
Posted by: brizle, bristol on 1:15pm Fri 18 Jul 08
he has ambition whats wrong with that we still have vicent perricard just out of prison he would do a job for us along with tim the bog cleaner from the nags head lololololololol fizzy pop league
he has ambition whats wrong with that we still have vicent perricard just out of prison he would do a job for us along with tim the bog cleaner from the nags head lololololololol fizzy pop league
Posted by: mark w, tooting on 1:22pm Fri 18 Jul 08
agree w st philly. none of our other strikers are capable of 20+ goals in a season. john does little other than score - but that's enough. keep him
agree w st philly. none of our other strikers are capable of 20+ goals in a season. john does little other than score - but that's enough. keep him
Posted by: David, Winchester on 1:26pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote] Jack Bourne wrote:
Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off.
How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.[/quote]
You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal
l manager.
Jack Bourne wrote:
Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off.
How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.
You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal
l manager.
Posted by: dangerousMike on 1:34pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote:
[quote] Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.[/quote] You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.[/quote] Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.
David wrote:
Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.
You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.
Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.
Posted by: Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away on 1:36pm Fri 18 Jul 08
He wants to play for a big club so when Hull, Grimbsy etc come calling you take a step up
He wants to play for a big club so when Hull, Grimbsy etc come calling you take a step up
Posted by: Rich, London on 1:51pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Lincoln Saint[/bold] wrote:
For anybody that actually watched SJ play last season would have seen that yes he scored goals but missed twice as many. His work rate was non existent and age is clearly not on his side. Let him go, bring in some valuable cash and lets play players who are proud to wear the saints shirt and will run themselves into the ground for the cause. Bye bye SJ and good riddance. Oh and please take Kelvin with you. COYR[/quote] You remind me of Venables when he was England Manager and said of Le Tiss "All he does is score goals". Wake up and smell the coffee - we cant have any player we want in the world, so I will happily take one who was in the top 3 scorers in the league. His finishing is better than anyone else we have (or can afford now). We have plenty of players who wear the shirt and run themselves into the ground. We need someone who can score
Lincoln Saint wrote:
For anybody that actually watched SJ play last season would have seen that yes he scored goals but missed twice as many. His work rate was non existent and age is clearly not on his side. Let him go, bring in some valuable cash and lets play players who are proud to wear the saints shirt and will run themselves into the ground for the cause. Bye bye SJ and good riddance. Oh and please take Kelvin with you. COYR
You remind me of Venables when he was England Manager and said of Le Tiss "All he does is score goals". Wake up and smell the coffee - we cant have any player we want in the world, so I will happily take one who was in the top 3 scorers in the league. His finishing is better than anyone else we have (or can afford now). We have plenty of players who wear the shirt and run themselves into the ground. We need someone who can score
Posted by: David, Winchester on 1:52pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote:
[quote] Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.[/quote] You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.[/quote] Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.[/quote] To be honest, I don't get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn't watch the other leagues or play the game. You can't beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn't want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he's lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don't think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals.
dangerousMike wrote:
David wrote:
Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.
You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.
Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.
To be honest, I don't get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn't watch the other leagues or play the game. You can't beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn't want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he's lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don't think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals.
Posted by: Wazza on 1:59pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]StMark[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote: He doesn\'t sound particularly interested in staying but in reality we have to keep him. To say that we have adequate cover up front is wishful thinking. Our other strikers are far too lightweight for this league, that much was proven last season. At very least if he goes we HAVE to spend whatever cash we have on getting a big reliable hitman. Without Stern or someone else weighing in with 15+ goals in a season we will be in trouble.[/quote] Not sure if I totally agree Wazza. I think Greg and Saga are probably worth 15-20 goals between them with Lallana and DMG weighing in with a few. Mainly though I think that Stern\'s apparent apathy could be a problem if, deep down he wants to go which it sounds like he does.[/quote] Saga and Rasiak have never been able to play together, last season they didn't score 10 between them. Your only as good as your last game, in this case your last season.
StMark wrote:
Wazza wrote: He doesn\'t sound particularly interested in staying but in reality we have to keep him. To say that we have adequate cover up front is wishful thinking. Our other strikers are far too lightweight for this league, that much was proven last season. At very least if he goes we HAVE to spend whatever cash we have on getting a big reliable hitman. Without Stern or someone else weighing in with 15+ goals in a season we will be in trouble.
Not sure if I totally agree Wazza. I think Greg and Saga are probably worth 15-20 goals between them with Lallana and DMG weighing in with a few. Mainly though I think that Stern\'s apparent apathy could be a problem if, deep down he wants to go which it sounds like he does.
Saga and Rasiak have never been able to play together, last season they didn't score 10 between them. Your only as good as your last game, in this case your last season.
Posted by: realist on 2:02pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]rational[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]SFC4EVA[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote: Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench. [/quote] What?! Are you reading a different article?! All he has said is that he knows people are looking at him and have made offers because he had a good season, which he did! Then he said is still with Sputhampton and his main priority is to start the season well with Saints! We don't need support like yours! Bet you are one of the 'Boo Boys' that get on the players back first mistake they make![/quote] Actually he didn't say "start the season well with Saints". He said "start the season well and try to do my best for Trinidad and Tobago". Seems clear where his loyalty lies......[/quote] ....yeah, to his own pocket.
Another "slave" is he?
I say sell him for the best price we can get, he's over the hill, isn't a team player and thinks far too highly of himself. (If you don't beleive me, look at his website). Once Rasiak, Saga, Lallana and McGoldrick get into their stride we won't need this has-been. Oh, and let's offlaoad that(allegedly) thieving little waste of space Plug while we're at it. Not that we'll get much for him, I just hate to think of our great club paying his wages - same goes for his thick mate Dyer.
rational wrote:
SFC4EVA wrote: dangerousMike wrote: Nice to see such loyal comments from a saints player. After that he can p1ss off and rot. I hate to see a player be so arogant. To show such a lack of respect for a club to which he owes so much is an insult to the fans and players alike. I hope he goes to Hull and does a good job warming their bench.
What?! Are you reading a different article?! All he has said is that he knows people are looking at him and have made offers because he had a good season, which he did! Then he said is still with Sputhampton and his main priority is to start the season well with Saints! We don't need support like yours! Bet you are one of the 'Boo Boys' that get on the players back first mistake they make!
Actually he didn't say "start the season well with Saints". He said "start the season well and try to do my best for Trinidad and Tobago". Seems clear where his loyalty lies......
....yeah, to his own pocket.
Another "slave" is he?
I say sell him for the best price we can get, he's over the hill, isn't a team player and thinks far too highly of himself. (If you don't beleive me, look at his website). Once Rasiak, Saga, Lallana and McGoldrick get into their stride we won't need this has-been. Oh, and let's offlaoad that(allegedly) thieving little waste of space Plug while we're at it. Not that we'll get much for him, I just hate to think of our great club paying his wages - same goes for his thick mate Dyer.
Posted by: dangerousMike, Livin it up at the hotel California on 2:02pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote: [quote] Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.[/quote] You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.[/quote] Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.[/quote] To be honest, I don't get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn't watch the other leagues or play the game. You can't beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn't want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he's lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don't think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals. [/quote] thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean.
Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions
David wrote:
dangerousMike wrote: David wrote: Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.
You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.
Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.
To be honest, I don't get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn't watch the other leagues or play the game. You can't beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn't want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he's lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don't think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals.
thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean.
Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions
Posted by: David, Winchester on 2:21pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote: [quote] Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.[/quote] You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.[/quote] Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.[/quote] To be honest, I don't get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn't watch the other leagues or play the game. You can't beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn't want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he's lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don't think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals. [/quote] thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean.
Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions [/quote] [quote]thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean.
Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions[/quote]
I watch La Liga every now and then, its a good league but still doesn't quite match the Prem. In my opinion anyway. I am sort of familiar to Dutch style of play (Chelsea fan, Ruud Gullit manager back in the day) and I know what you mean about the target man not being used. However, if you look at some of Stern's goals last season, they weren't really target man goals, I don't recall too many headers so I think Stern would be ok in the Dutch system. However you would need some pace up there with him.
dangerousMike wrote:
David wrote:
dangerousMike wrote: David wrote: Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.
You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.
Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.
To be honest, I don't get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn't watch the other leagues or play the game. You can't beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn't want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he's lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don't think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals.
thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean.
Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions
thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean.
Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions
I watch La Liga every now and then, its a good league but still doesn't quite match the Prem. In my opinion anyway. I am sort of familiar to Dutch style of play (Chelsea fan, Ruud Gullit manager back in the day) and I know what you mean about the target man not being used. However, if you look at some of Stern's goals last season, they weren't really target man goals, I don't recall too many headers so I think Stern would be ok in the Dutch system. However you would need some pace up there with him.
Posted by: dangerousMike, sitting, waiting, wishing for a good start to the season on 2:29pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote: [quote] Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.[/quote] You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.[/quote] Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.[/quote] To be honest, I don't get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn't watch the other leagues or play the game. You can't beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn't want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he's lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don't think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals. [/quote] thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean. Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions [/quote] [quote]thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean. Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions[/quote] I watch La Liga every now and then, its a good league but still doesn't quite match the Prem. In my opinion anyway. I am sort of familiar to Dutch style of play (Chelsea fan, Ruud Gullit manager back in the day) and I know what you mean about the target man not being used. However, if you look at some of Stern's goals last season, they weren't really target man goals, I don't recall too many headers so I think Stern would be ok in the Dutch system. However you would need some pace up there with him. [/quote] My point wasnt that Stern would not suit the system it was that he would not be integral to the system and if he is making comments that suggest he is not commited to the club then we would be better off without him. I agree that our lack of forward pace will restrict us slightly however sometims raw pace is less important that movement, Zola comes to mind, and the lack of forward movement in the squad does still need to be adressed but that is a matter of propper coachin as much as anything else. Again looking to europe a lot of the top clubs preach that forward movement does not mean moving forward and i hope to see our wide players moving infield to exploit space in behind the frontman. As JP has suggested they would. But i guess we shall see.
David wrote:
dangerousMike wrote: David wrote: dangerousMike wrote: David wrote: Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can't put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don't see it happening.
You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.
Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.
To be honest, I don't get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn't watch the other leagues or play the game. You can't beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn't want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he's lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don't think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals.
thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean. Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions
thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean. Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions
I watch La Liga every now and then, its a good league but still doesn't quite match the Prem. In my opinion anyway. I am sort of familiar to Dutch style of play (Chelsea fan, Ruud Gullit manager back in the day) and I know what you mean about the target man not being used. However, if you look at some of Stern's goals last season, they weren't really target man goals, I don't recall too many headers so I think Stern would be ok in the Dutch system. However you would need some pace up there with him.
My point wasnt that Stern would not suit the system it was that he would not be integral to the system and if he is making comments that suggest he is not commited to the club then we would be better off without him. I agree that our lack of forward pace will restrict us slightly however sometims raw pace is less important that movement, Zola comes to mind, and the lack of forward movement in the squad does still need to be adressed but that is a matter of propper coachin as much as anything else. Again looking to europe a lot of the top clubs preach that forward movement does not mean moving forward and i hope to see our wide players moving infield to exploit space in behind the frontman. As JP has suggested they would. But i guess we shall see.
Posted by: DevonSaint on 2:29pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I think SJ is trying to get entered in the Guiness Book of Record by signing for the most clubs in the shortest amount of time. If he goes I just can't see where our goals are going to come from this season?
I think SJ is trying to get entered in the Guiness Book of Record by signing for the most clubs in the shortest amount of time. If he goes I just can't see where our goals are going to come from this season?
Posted by: David, Winchester on 2:37pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]dangerousMike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote: [quote] Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can\'t put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don\'t see it happening.[/quote] You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.[/quote] Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.[/quote] To be honest, I don\'t get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn\'t watch the other leagues or play the game. You can\'t beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn\'t want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he\'s lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don\'t think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals. [/quote] thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean. Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions [/quote] [quote]thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean. Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions[/quote] I watch La Liga every now and then, its a good league but still doesn\'t quite match the Prem. In my opinion anyway. I am sort of familiar to Dutch style of play (Chelsea fan, Ruud Gullit manager back in the day) and I know what you mean about the target man not being used. However, if you look at some of Stern\'s goals last season, they weren\'t really target man goals, I don\'t recall too many headers so I think Stern would be ok in the Dutch system. However you would need some pace up there with him. [/quote] My point wasnt that Stern would not suit the system it was that he would not be integral to the system and if he is making comments that suggest he is not commited to the club then we would be better off without him. I agree that our lack of forward pace will restrict us slightly however sometims raw pace is less important that movement, Zola comes to mind, and the lack of forward movement in the squad does still need to be adressed but that is a matter of propper coachin as much as anything else. Again looking to europe a lot of the top clubs preach that forward movement does not mean moving forward and i hope to see our wide players moving infield to exploit space in behind the frontman. As JP has suggested they would. But i guess we shall see.[/quote] Yes this is true, if he's not committed and he's earning wages that Watford can't afford then he probably should go. I like the sound of the 4-2-1-2-1 system and the fact they want to actually want to play football! I hope for a good season for Saints, although I'm not going to get too carried away. Top half.
dangerousMike wrote:
David wrote:
dangerousMike wrote: David wrote: dangerousMike wrote: David wrote: Jack Bourne wrote: Well anyone know what the price they have slapped on S.John? We can\'t put our kids out all the big clubs will come calling!Loyalty is with country with John not with us hope we get Klass Jan Huntelaar and John can **** off. How are we going to afford a £15 million rated striker with no money? I hope we sign Lulinha from Corinthians but i don\'t see it happening.
You guys need to get off of Championship/Footbal l manager.
Actually have seen him play. If you try to keep in touch with the world outside of your bedroom window you would realise that Lulinha has been a regular Sub for corinthians, and has recently attracted the attentions of clubs such as Real Madrid. I appologise if the fact that I watch football from all around the world to see the technical ability of some of the better player led you to believe that i also have nothing better to do with my time than play a computer game like yourself.
To be honest, I don\'t get to watch much football on the TV nor do I play Championship or Football manager. Even if I could I wouldn\'t watch the other leagues or play the game. You can\'t beat the Prem, which is the league my team are in (Its not Portsmouth, before we start getting the Skate messages etc.) However as a follower of Southampton, I wouldn\'t want John to leave as he is a proven goalscorer (albeit that he\'s lazy and misses more than he scores.) I don\'t think Rasiak, Saganowski, Lallana, BWP or McGoldrick will weigh up with enough goals.
thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean. Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions
thats a nice small minded and biggoted attitude you have there. I bet you dont get out too much and actually play the game either. For those of us who do the style of play in the premiership sadly restricts the skill level during games. I suggest you try watching a La-Liga game to see what i mean. Re: Stern John I dont feel that the Dutch style of play, which i assume you are ignorant of aswell, openly reguires a single identifiable goalscorer or targetman. The reliance on which is a perculiarly Brittish trait, for example take Man Utd who dont have an identifyable targetman and who still managed to win the league and champions league by getting goals from all positions
I watch La Liga every now and then, its a good league but still doesn\'t quite match the Prem. In my opinion anyway. I am sort of familiar to Dutch style of play (Chelsea fan, Ruud Gullit manager back in the day) and I know what you mean about the target man not being used. However, if you look at some of Stern\'s goals last season, they weren\'t really target man goals, I don\'t recall too many headers so I think Stern would be ok in the Dutch system. However you would need some pace up there with him.
My point wasnt that Stern would not suit the system it was that he would not be integral to the system and if he is making comments that suggest he is not commited to the club then we would be better off without him. I agree that our lack of forward pace will restrict us slightly however sometims raw pace is less important that movement, Zola comes to mind, and the lack of forward movement in the squad does still need to be adressed but that is a matter of propper coachin as much as anything else. Again looking to europe a lot of the top clubs preach that forward movement does not mean moving forward and i hope to see our wide players moving infield to exploit space in behind the frontman. As JP has suggested they would. But i guess we shall see.
Yes this is true, if he's not committed and he's earning wages that Watford can't afford then he probably should go. I like the sound of the 4-2-1-2-1 system and the fact they want to actually want to play football! I hope for a good season for Saints, although I'm not going to get too carried away. Top half.
Posted by: Martin Orford on 2:41pm Fri 18 Jul 08
So Stern and Rasiak score goals but have a poor work rate do they? Well good for them!
Sounds like a sensible use of stamina and fitness to me.
Games are won by goals, not by work rate and far too much unnecessary energy is expended in a modern football match.
Le Tiss didn't do it and neither did Ossie; they didn't need a high work rate because most of what they did was effective and had a bearing on the game.
There's a lot more to football than just running around headless chicken-style for 90 minutes like the dismal Kevin Keegan and scores of his successors (most recently Safri) used to do.
So Stern and Rasiak score goals but have a poor work rate do they? Well good for them!
Sounds like a sensible use of stamina and fitness to me.
Games are won by goals, not by work rate and far too much unnecessary energy is expended in a modern football match.
Le Tiss didn't do it and neither did Ossie; they didn't need a high work rate because most of what they did was effective and had a bearing on the game.
There's a lot more to football than just running around headless chicken-style for 90 minutes like the dismal Kevin Keegan and scores of his successors (most recently Safri) used to do.
Posted by: confused on 2:54pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Martin Orford[/bold] wrote:
So Stern and Rasiak score goals but have a poor work rate do they? Well good for them! Sounds like a sensible use of stamina and fitness to me. Games are won by goals, not by work rate and far too much unnecessary energy is expended in a modern football match. Le Tiss didn't do it and neither did Ossie; they didn't need a high work rate because most of what they did was effective and had a bearing on the game. There's a lot more to football than just running around headless chicken-style for 90 minutes like the dismal Kevin Keegan and scores of his successors (most recently Safri) used to do.[/quote] When the f*ck did safri ever move? The most i ever saw him move was when he moved clubs!
Martin Orford wrote:
So Stern and Rasiak score goals but have a poor work rate do they? Well good for them! Sounds like a sensible use of stamina and fitness to me. Games are won by goals, not by work rate and far too much unnecessary energy is expended in a modern football match. Le Tiss didn't do it and neither did Ossie; they didn't need a high work rate because most of what they did was effective and had a bearing on the game. There's a lot more to football than just running around headless chicken-style for 90 minutes like the dismal Kevin Keegan and scores of his successors (most recently Safri) used to do.
When the f*ck did safri ever move? The most i ever saw him move was when he moved clubs!
Posted by: Jimmy, Soton on 3:40pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Hull Can Run And Jump Getting our Main Striker if he goes we'll may Struggle to bang in the goals because we cant rely on merek because he doesnt score very often and theres bradley wright after what happen to him over the summer can we trust him? Stern John Is As Valuable to saints As Cristano Ronalso Is To Man.U
Hull Can Run And Jump Getting our Main Striker if he goes we'll may Struggle to bang in the goals because we cant rely on merek because he doesnt score very often and theres bradley wright after what happen to him over the summer can we trust him? Stern John Is As Valuable to saints As Cristano Ronalso Is To Man.U
Posted by: StMark, Northampton on 3:43pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]StMark[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote: He doesn\\\'t sound particularly interested in staying but in reality we have to keep him. To say that we have adequate cover up front is wishful thinking. Our other strikers are far too lightweight for this league, that much was proven last season. At very least if he goes we HAVE to spend whatever cash we have on getting a big reliable hitman. Without Stern or someone else weighing in with 15+ goals in a season we will be in trouble.[/quote] Not sure if I totally agree Wazza. I think Greg and Saga are probably worth 15-20 goals between them with Lallana and DMG weighing in with a few. Mainly though I think that Stern\\\'s apparent apathy could be a problem if, deep down he wants to go which it sounds like he does.[/quote] Saga and Rasiak have never been able to play together, last season they didn\'t score 10 between them. Your only as good as your last game, in this case your last season.[/quote] Had SJ said "I am flattered by the interest but I am committed to Saints"(or words to that effect), I would agree but he didn't and, returning to my original point about apathy, that is a worry and means that he will probably not be the player he was last season.
I also thik that had he converted 50 per cent of the chances he MISSSED last season, we would have probably been higher up the table and would not have had to endure the tensions of survival by the skin of someone else's teeth.
Wazza wrote:
StMark wrote:
Wazza wrote: He doesn't sound particularly interested in staying but in reality we have to keep him. To say that we have adequate cover up front is wishful thinking. Our other strikers are far too lightweight for this league, that much was proven last season. At very least if he goes we HAVE to spend whatever cash we have on getting a big reliable hitman. Without Stern or someone else weighing in with 15+ goals in a season we will be in trouble.
Not sure if I totally agree Wazza. I think Greg and Saga are probably worth 15-20 goals between them with Lallana and DMG weighing in with a few. Mainly though I think that Stern's apparent apathy could be a problem if, deep down he wants to go which it sounds like he does.
Saga and Rasiak have never been able to play together, last season they didn\'t score 10 between them. Your only as good as your last game, in this case your last season.
Had SJ said "I am flattered by the interest but I am committed to Saints"(or words to that effect), I would agree but he didn't and, returning to my original point about apathy, that is a worry and means that he will probably not be the player he was last season.
I also thik that had he converted 50 per cent of the chances he MISSSED last season, we would have probably been higher up the table and would not have had to endure the tensions of survival by the skin of someone else's teeth.
Posted by: dangerousMike, fast asleep in a hookers rack on 3:48pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jimmy[/bold] wrote:
Hull Can Run And Jump Getting our Main Striker if he goes we'll may Struggle to bang in the goals because we cant rely on merek because he doesnt score very often and theres bradley wright after what happen to him over the summer can we trust him? Stern John Is As Valuable to saints As Cristano Ronalso Is To Man.U[/quote] What the hell have you been smoking? Do you genuinley believe that Stern John can in any way be compaired to Christiano Ronaldo! The fact is that the club could survive without him and, as clubs before us have found out, a player who is not commited to the club is worthless. Don't feel enamoured to the player because of his performance for us on the last day of the season last year. If you remember before that he had struggled to score many post Christmas and had stopped moving altogether during games. I have at no point said that a player must move a lot just that they must move in an intelligent manner and if you have ever seen Rasiak play this is something that he does very well. His favourite trick is to stand in an offside position on the flanks to open up space through the midle which i believe i have allready said will be a key to the way JP wants to play so he would get my vote as an interrim striker.
Jimmy wrote:
Hull Can Run And Jump Getting our Main Striker if he goes we'll may Struggle to bang in the goals because we cant rely on merek because he doesnt score very often and theres bradley wright after what happen to him over the summer can we trust him? Stern John Is As Valuable to saints As Cristano Ronalso Is To Man.U
What the hell have you been smoking? Do you genuinley believe that Stern John can in any way be compaired to Christiano Ronaldo! The fact is that the club could survive without him and, as clubs before us have found out, a player who is not commited to the club is worthless. Don't feel enamoured to the player because of his performance for us on the last day of the season last year. If you remember before that he had struggled to score many post Christmas and had stopped moving altogether during games. I have at no point said that a player must move a lot just that they must move in an intelligent manner and if you have ever seen Rasiak play this is something that he does very well. His favourite trick is to stand in an offside position on the flanks to open up space through the midle which i believe i have allready said will be a key to the way JP wants to play so he would get my vote as an interrim striker.
Posted by: Myself on 4:08pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Saints have signed sarmiento
http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/?page_id=
7093&startfrom=0
Saints have signed sarmiento
http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/?page_id=
7093&startfrom=0
Posted by: graham, southampton on 4:09pm Fri 18 Jul 08
have seen chris baird coming out of st marys and paul dickov so not that bad if we lose stern john as dickov scored a bundle last season to.
have seen chris baird coming out of st marys and paul dickov so not that bad if we lose stern john as dickov scored a bundle last season to.
Posted by: Arthur, Soton on 4:31pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Myself[/bold] wrote:
Saints have signed sarmiento http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/?page_id= 7093&startfrom=0[/quote] Haha very funny. Convenient Burley has just popped on down to St. Mary's and signed him for us even though he is scotland manager.
We wouldn't even want Sarmiento even though he is a decent player, we have Gillet and Schneiderlin at DM.
Myself wrote:
Saints have signed sarmiento http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/?page_id= 7093&startfrom=0
Haha very funny. Convenient Burley has just popped on down to St. Mary's and signed him for us even though he is scotland manager.
We wouldn't even want Sarmiento even though he is a decent player, we have Gillet and Schneiderlin at DM.
Posted by: Mmmmm, here, there, everwhere on 4:31pm Fri 18 Jul 08
So anyway, player gets linked with move away in the 'press' with some quotes attributed to him that he may or may not have said and even if he did say are undoubtedly printed out of context.
And the saints 'fans' jump all over his lack of commitment and then start to question his effort and ability.
The fact is he scored 20 goals for us last season including 2 very good goals in the last game. Another player MIGHT have converted more chances, on the other hand they MIGHT not and no striker is going to put away all his chances some strikers will miss sitters, I'm sure even the greatest strikers missed open goals.
I don't buy the 'SJ is lazy' line either, you don't get 20 goals a season from goal hanging, you have to move about a lot and from what I've seen of him he is always making himself available and is a willing outlet, no he doesn't run the channels but then if he did that he wouldn't be in the 6 yard box to put away the chances.
Some people need to give it a rest, and it shows the depths the 'fans' have sunk to that they will now find a way of complaining about our top scorer of last season.
So anyway, player gets linked with move away in the 'press' with some quotes attributed to him that he may or may not have said and even if he did say are undoubtedly printed out of context.
And the saints 'fans' jump all over his lack of commitment and then start to question his effort and ability.
The fact is he scored 20 goals for us last season including 2 very good goals in the last game. Another player MIGHT have converted more chances, on the other hand they MIGHT not and no striker is going to put away all his chances some strikers will miss sitters, I'm sure even the greatest strikers missed open goals.
I don't buy the 'SJ is lazy' line either, you don't get 20 goals a season from goal hanging, you have to move about a lot and from what I've seen of him he is always making himself available and is a willing outlet, no he doesn't run the channels but then if he did that he wouldn't be in the 6 yard box to put away the chances.
Some people need to give it a rest, and it shows the depths the 'fans' have sunk to that they will now find a way of complaining about our top scorer of last season.
Posted by: Arthur, Soton on 4:33pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Mmmmm[/bold] wrote:
So anyway, player gets linked with move away in the 'press' with some quotes attributed to him that he may or may not have said and even if he did say are undoubtedly printed out of context. And the saints 'fans' jump all over his lack of commitment and then start to question his effort and ability. The fact is he scored 20 goals for us last season including 2 very good goals in the last game. Another player MIGHT have converted more chances, on the other hand they MIGHT not and no striker is going to put away all his chances some strikers will miss sitters, I'm sure even the greatest strikers missed open goals. I don't buy the 'SJ is lazy' line either, you don't get 20 goals a season from goal hanging, you have to move about a lot and from what I've seen of him he is always making himself available and is a willing outlet, no he doesn't run the channels but then if he did that he wouldn't be in the 6 yard box to put away the chances. Some people need to give it a rest, and it shows the depths the 'fans' have sunk to that they will now find a way of complaining about our top scorer of last season.[/quote] Well said!
Mmmmm wrote:
So anyway, player gets linked with move away in the 'press' with some quotes attributed to him that he may or may not have said and even if he did say are undoubtedly printed out of context. And the saints 'fans' jump all over his lack of commitment and then start to question his effort and ability. The fact is he scored 20 goals for us last season including 2 very good goals in the last game. Another player MIGHT have converted more chances, on the other hand they MIGHT not and no striker is going to put away all his chances some strikers will miss sitters, I'm sure even the greatest strikers missed open goals. I don't buy the 'SJ is lazy' line either, you don't get 20 goals a season from goal hanging, you have to move about a lot and from what I've seen of him he is always making himself available and is a willing outlet, no he doesn't run the channels but then if he did that he wouldn't be in the 6 yard box to put away the chances. Some people need to give it a rest, and it shows the depths the 'fans' have sunk to that they will now find a way of complaining about our top scorer of last season.
Well said!
Posted by: Billy 2 Baps, Waiting for my Whistle on 4:39pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Myself[/bold] wrote:
Saints have signed sarmiento http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/?page_id= 7093&startfrom=0[/quote] Of course they have. I wonder where "I use my Brains" is today. when i said John might be going (about 3 weeks ago) He said some very stupid things. Well all i can say, you seem to be very silent on this subject today. Care to post your views? Maybe your 1 brain cell gave up the ghost.
Myself wrote:
Saints have signed sarmiento http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/news/?page_id= 7093&startfrom=0
Of course they have. I wonder where "I use my Brains" is today. when i said John might be going (about 3 weeks ago) He said some very stupid things. Well all i can say, you seem to be very silent on this subject today. Care to post your views? Maybe your 1 brain cell gave up the ghost.
Posted by: NC Fan for Life, Chandlers Ford on 4:56pm Fri 18 Jul 08
No surprise as Stern John knows that he is a player that Saints are willing to sell if anyone offers a reasonable price, along with Saganowski, Viafara, Rasiak, Skacel, Euell & Dyer.
No surprise as Stern John knows that he is a player that Saints are willing to sell if anyone offers a reasonable price, along with Saganowski, Viafara, Rasiak, Skacel, Euell & Dyer.
Posted by: saintned, Totton on 5:32pm Fri 18 Jul 08
surley if John was going he wouldn't have taken the no:14 shirt which is his fav number!!!
surley if John was going he wouldn't have taken the no:14 shirt which is his fav number!!!
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 6:07pm Fri 18 Jul 08
If John wants to go to Hull let him go. We'll get a fee + we'll be saving around £19k a week in wages. OK, he scored a lot of goals but so did Rasiak and Saganowski the season before last. At 31 if you get a big offer in take it. It's win win for all concerned. John's had a lot of clubs and stays no longer than 2 seasons, I think we see a pattern emerging....
If John wants to go to Hull let him go. We'll get a fee + we'll be saving around £19k a week in wages. OK, he scored a lot of goals but so did Rasiak and Saganowski the season before last. At 31 if you get a big offer in take it. It's win win for all concerned. John's had a lot of clubs and stays no longer than 2 seasons, I think we see a pattern emerging....
Posted by: dangerousMike, Monkeyworld is freeking amazin' on 6:08pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Mmmmm[/bold] wrote:
So anyway, player gets linked with move away in the \'press\' with some quotes attributed to him that he may or may not have said and even if he did say are undoubtedly printed out of context. And the saints \'fans\' jump all over his lack of commitment and then start to question his effort and ability. The fact is he scored 20 goals for us last season including 2 very good goals in the last game. Another player MIGHT have converted more chances, on the other hand they MIGHT not and no striker is going to put away all his chances some strikers will miss sitters, I\'m sure even the greatest strikers missed open goals. I don\'t buy the \'SJ is lazy\' line either, you don\'t get 20 goals a season from goal hanging, you have to move about a lot and from what I\'ve seen of him he is always making himself available and is a willing outlet, no he doesn\'t run the channels but then if he did that he wouldn\'t be in the 6 yard box to put away the chances. Some people need to give it a rest, and it shows the depths the \'fans\' have sunk to that they will now find a way of complaining about our top scorer of last season.[/quote] just a point Van Nistelrooy does quite well out of goal hanging. I dont believe anybody has citisised his ability in a defamatory manner. I meerly suggested that he might not be as good as one of the finest players to have played the game. Also your point about him not running the channels falls wide of the mark as I have already suggested the type of player that is willing to do just that is key to the flexible 4-3-3 that JP wants to play. I dont know if you were at the stadium the second half of last season or not but John was not started in some games due to the lack of effort and commitment that many fans moan about from last season. If you believe that i am not greatful for his scoring the goals he did last year then i appologise. however the fact remains that John is not indespesable and that if he were to go it would be of benefit to the club on many levels. I would refer you goods elf to the case of the very same Ruud Van Nistelrooy, after the departure of whom Man Utds football improved tenfold and the club developed a winning mentality and selfless aplication. SJ from his comments both in this article and on his website (to which i also recomend you refer) clearly lacks both these qualities.
Mmmmm wrote:
So anyway, player gets linked with move away in the \'press\' with some quotes attributed to him that he may or may not have said and even if he did say are undoubtedly printed out of context. And the saints \'fans\' jump all over his lack of commitment and then start to question his effort and ability. The fact is he scored 20 goals for us last season including 2 very good goals in the last game. Another player MIGHT have converted more chances, on the other hand they MIGHT not and no striker is going to put away all his chances some strikers will miss sitters, I\'m sure even the greatest strikers missed open goals. I don\'t buy the \'SJ is lazy\' line either, you don\'t get 20 goals a season from goal hanging, you have to move about a lot and from what I\'ve seen of him he is always making himself available and is a willing outlet, no he doesn\'t run the channels but then if he did that he wouldn\'t be in the 6 yard box to put away the chances. Some people need to give it a rest, and it shows the depths the \'fans\' have sunk to that they will now find a way of complaining about our top scorer of last season.
just a point Van Nistelrooy does quite well out of goal hanging. I dont believe anybody has citisised his ability in a defamatory manner. I meerly suggested that he might not be as good as one of the finest players to have played the game. Also your point about him not running the channels falls wide of the mark as I have already suggested the type of player that is willing to do just that is key to the flexible 4-3-3 that JP wants to play. I dont know if you were at the stadium the second half of last season or not but John was not started in some games due to the lack of effort and commitment that many fans moan about from last season. If you believe that i am not greatful for his scoring the goals he did last year then i appologise. however the fact remains that John is not indespesable and that if he were to go it would be of benefit to the club on many levels. I would refer you goods elf to the case of the very same Ruud Van Nistelrooy, after the departure of whom Man Utds football improved tenfold and the club developed a winning mentality and selfless aplication. SJ from his comments both in this article and on his website (to which i also recomend you refer) clearly lacks both these qualities.
Posted by: whoops on 6:09pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Southampton’s top scorer last season Stern John has told his native Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation that “there have been a few clubs showing interest” in him, also speaking with a noticeable absence of desire to stay at the Championship club.
The Trinidad and Tobago Express claim that Premiership newcomers Hull City have joined the race, together with Championship rivals Watford (who are believed to be unable to meet his wage demands) and a Saudi Arabian club.
John told the T&T Express: “I know there have been a few clubs showing interest because I did enough last season by getting among the goals and helping Southampton stay up.”
The striker scored 19 goals last season, including a hat-trick against Hull, making him the fourth highest scorer in the division.
“But at the moment there's nothing much I can say. At the moment I'm with Southampton.”
Hardly convincing, is it? Repetition of the adverbial phrase “at the moment” seems to say it all.
“The main thing for me is to ensure I take care of myself and start the season well and try to do my best for Trinidad and Tobago in the World Cup qualifiers.
“Going to another World Cup is a big part of my hopes.”
Taking care of number one and focusing on international opportunities is clear code for “come and get me Premier League!” in my book.
Though his goals kept Southampton up last season (on paper, at least) Poortvliet has spoken out about only wanting players who are committed to the cause and there’s no secret about the club’s desire to offload the high-earners. With competition tight for that single out-and-out-striker position in the Dutchman’s new 4-2-1-2-1 shape and the emergence of David McGoldrick as a potent force in the early pre-season phase, the only issue seems to be how much can Saints get for him? This could be the main stumbling block for Hull, but with 69 international goals to date, the 31-year-old has the top flight experience the northern side will be looking for.
Southampton’s top scorer last season Stern John has told his native Trinidad and Tobago Football Federation that “there have been a few clubs showing interest” in him, also speaking with a noticeable absence of desire to stay at the Championship club.
The Trinidad and Tobago Express claim that Premiership newcomers Hull City have joined the race, together with Championship rivals Watford (who are believed to be unable to meet his wage demands) and a Saudi Arabian club.
John told the T&T Express: “I know there have been a few clubs showing interest because I did enough last season by getting among the goals and helping Southampton stay up.”
The striker scored 19 goals last season, including a hat-trick against Hull, making him the fourth highest scorer in the division.
“But at the moment there's nothing much I can say. At the moment I'm with Southampton.”
Hardly convincing, is it? Repetition of the adverbial phrase “at the moment” seems to say it all.
“The main thing for me is to ensure I take care of myself and start the season well and try to do my best for Trinidad and Tobago in the World Cup qualifiers.
“Going to another World Cup is a big part of my hopes.”
Taking care of number one and focusing on international opportunities is clear code for “come and get me Premier League!” in my book.
Though his goals kept Southampton up last season (on paper, at least) Poortvliet has spoken out about only wanting players who are committed to the cause and there’s no secret about the club’s desire to offload the high-earners. With competition tight for that single out-and-out-striker position in the Dutchman’s new 4-2-1-2-1 shape and the emergence of David McGoldrick as a potent force in the early pre-season phase, the only issue seems to be how much can Saints get for him? This could be the main stumbling block for Hull, but with 69 international goals to date, the 31-year-old has the top flight experience the northern side will be looking for.
Posted by: Nathan Dyer's Inkless Pen, firmly in his thieving pocket on 6:42pm Fri 18 Jul 08
If John goes we have no proven consistant goalscorer, if it wasn't for John we would have been in League 1 this season so please Lowe ensure he doesn't go.....or else
If John goes we have no proven consistant goalscorer, if it wasn't for John we would have been in League 1 this season so please Lowe ensure he doesn't go.....or else
Posted by: David Crook, Yorkshire on 7:19pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Stern John is a has been,to old and way over the top,let him go,if only we could buy Scotland from Swansea,what a striker.
Come on you Saints
David Crook
Stern John is a has been,to old and way over the top,let him go,if only we could buy Scotland from Swansea,what a striker.
Come on you Saints
David Crook
Posted by: sharon sheen, dilton marsh on 8:50pm Fri 18 Jul 08
get rid of john, buy lee trundle from bristol city.
get rid of john, buy lee trundle from bristol city.
Posted by: DEREK BOULTER on 12:10am Sat 19 Jul 08
[bold]bold[/bold] [italic]italic[/italic] NO, not another of our few decent players,on the way out, pay the man the money he deserves. See if he wants to go then.
NO, not another of our few decent players,on the way out, pay the man the money he deserves. See if he wants to go then.
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 9:47am Sat 19 Jul 08
If we can't afford John's wages it's best to sell him, we can't risk administration at any cost.
If we can't afford John's wages it's best to sell him, we can't risk administration at any cost.
Posted by: sherborne saint, sherborne on 12:04pm Sat 19 Jul 08
I think that most footballers would be making similar comments in this situation. In reality the most important aspect for any player is that they put in good personal performances. They live in a world where money is hugely important and their careers are partly controlled by other people (agents + managers). If Stern thinks (or is being told by his agent) that he could get a move to a club paying higher wages and are higher profile I would let him go. I don't really think the fact he scored lots last year is a major factor, it is not really a guarentee he will again, look at Saga last season!
I would prefer to see DMG given a go. He has more movement, speed and is keen to make an impression.
I think that most footballers would be making similar comments in this situation. In reality the most important aspect for any player is that they put in good personal performances. They live in a world where money is hugely important and their careers are partly controlled by other people (agents + managers). If Stern thinks (or is being told by his agent) that he could get a move to a club paying higher wages and are higher profile I would let him go. I don't really think the fact he scored lots last year is a major factor, it is not really a guarentee he will again, look at Saga last season!
I would prefer to see DMG given a go. He has more movement, speed and is keen to make an impression.
