PM facing fresh pressure over Gaza

PM facing fresh pressure over Gaza

Prime Minister David Cameron faces more pressure over the situation in Gaza

Baroness Warsi has quit as Foreign Office Minister over the Government's policy on Gaza

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David Cameron is facing fresh pressure over Gaza in the wake of Baroness Warsi's resignation, with his Liberal Democrat coalition partners demanding the suspension of arms export licences to Israel.

Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said he agreed with former Foreign Office minister Lady Warsi that there were "serious questions" about the licences.

"It's obvious to me that however much Israel has every right to defend itself from those rocket attacks from Hamas, nonetheless the Israeli military operation overstepped the mark in Gaza," Mr Clegg said.

"This outrageous spectacle of these three UN schools being hit by Israeli military action. That's why I believe that the export licences should now be suspended.

"I'm working with (Business Secretary) Vince Cable on this.

"It is his department that administers these export licences and he and I both believe the actions of the Israeli military, overstepping the mark in Gaza, breach the conditions of those export licences and that's why we want to see them suspended pending a wider review of whether they should be revoked more permanently in the long run."

The Government has already launched a review of export licences, but no decisions have been taken on suspension.

Mr Cable said: "Both Nick Clegg and I agree that we should suspend export licences for military equipment that might be used by Israel in Gaza. We have been making this case inside Government but have not yet been able to get agreement for this position. I hope and expect that to change shortly."

In an interview with Channel 4 News about her resignation, Lady Warsi branded the UK's policy on Gaza "mealy-mouthed" and "morally indefensible".

She said she discussed resignation in private with at least one other minister, and described having a telephone conversation with a Tory backbencher who was in tears at the devastation being shown on television.

The peer suggested she might have been able to stay in government if she had been a minister at another department such as transport, but could not continue defending the policy as the Foreign Office spokeswoman in the House of Lords.

"For me it's morally indefensible where after four weeks of a conflict, more than a quarter of the Gazan population displaced, nearly 2,000 people killed, 400 innocent children killed - we still cannot find the words to say we condemn this and that we feel that this action has been disproportionate," Lady Warsi said.

"These issues are far too serious for us to be mealy-mouthed and for us to be dragging our heels.

"I think there is a sincerely held view in government that the best way to resolve this matter is to try and be as accommodating as possible to the Israeli government, to try and through that seek influence with them, and through that to try and move them to a more positive decision. I'm not sure that policy is working."

Lady Warsi took particular aim at Chancellor George Osborne, who earlier complained that her departure had been "unnecessary", accusing him of failing to challenge Tel Aviv about its actions.

"George is a very good friend of the Israeli government and therefore he more than anybody else should have been saying quite frankly to the Israeli government that what you are doing is not in your interests - this is probably the biggest single act of self-harm that the Israeli government have done over the last few years," she said.

"What he should have been saying to the Israeli government is that it is unnecessary for you to kill innocent civilians, it is unnecessary for you to displace a quarter of the population, it is unnecessary for you to flatten schools, hospitals and power supplies and water supplies to achieve your ends.

"And had George done that, then I agree with him, it would not have been necessary for me to resign."

A Downing Street spokesman said: "A cross-Government review of export licences to Israel is under way following the sustained barrage of rocket attacks from Gaza into Israel which prompted Israel to launch Operation Protective Edge. Since then no new licences have been issued for use by the Israeli military.

"Suspending export licences is not a decision we take lightly and it is right that we examine the facts fully. This is the approach being taken by the vast majority of countries.

"We welcome the current ceasefire and the withdrawal of Israeli troops from Gaza, and continue to call for a political solution to be found."

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11:23am Tue 5 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Now take her title off her, six months JSA then stop that....Hope she moves to Gazza, she can join Hamas and help settle their War....
Now take her title off her, six months JSA then stop that....Hope she moves to Gazza, she can join Hamas and help settle their War.... welshmen
  • Score: -12

12:18pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Shropshirelad says...

Racist.
Racist. Shropshirelad
  • Score: -5

12:43pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

She could go and form her own party now like that other Tory toff Oswald Moseley.
She could go and form her own party now like that other Tory toff Oswald Moseley. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -10

12:47pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Shropshirelad wrote:
Racist.
Don't really see what was racist about what Welshman wrote. It was more a comment about the hypocrisy of the British class system which demonises working class unemployed people. Why shouldn't a Baroness be compelled to actively seek work once unemployed just like the rest of us 'commoners' have to? Thought our Tory government is insistent that 'we're all in this together', eh?
[quote][p][bold]Shropshirelad[/bold] wrote: Racist.[/p][/quote]Don't really see what was racist about what Welshman wrote. It was more a comment about the hypocrisy of the British class system which demonises working class unemployed people. Why shouldn't a Baroness be compelled to actively seek work once unemployed just like the rest of us 'commoners' have to? Thought our Tory government is insistent that 'we're all in this together', eh? Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 3

1:04pm Tue 5 Aug 14

MSG says...

Did she not know that many of the top Tories are also members of the "Friends of Israel" group. ?

She rocked the traditional boat, so well done to her for resigning. We need more politicians who speak out and are not afraid of the whips!
Did she not know that many of the top Tories are also members of the "Friends of Israel" group. ? She rocked the traditional boat, so well done to her for resigning. We need more politicians who speak out and are not afraid of the whips! MSG
  • Score: 17

1:32pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Refrained from supporting the same-sex marriage bill though, didn't she? Personally, I think we have enough homophobic Tory politicians already so the absence of one will be no great loss.
Refrained from supporting the same-sex marriage bill though, didn't she? Personally, I think we have enough homophobic Tory politicians already so the absence of one will be no great loss. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -11

1:35pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Mind you, now that Baroness Warsi is officially an 'unemployed person', I would like to take this opportunity to offer my sincere moral outrage and disgust at the inhumane treatment and total disregard for her human rights that she will receive from the oppressive IDS (a.k.a. Iain Duncan Smith;)
Mind you, now that Baroness Warsi is officially an 'unemployed person', I would like to take this opportunity to offer my sincere moral outrage and disgust at the inhumane treatment and total disregard for her human rights that she will receive from the oppressive IDS (a.k.a. Iain Duncan Smith;) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -8

3:35pm Tue 5 Aug 14

duckface08 says...

Labour have a cheek criticising the present government, when they were in power their leader did more damage to the people of the middle east than anyone before or since. Peace Envoy-----I don't think so, he should have gone to the HAIGUE and been tried as a war criminal.
Labour have a cheek criticising the present government, when they were in power their leader did more damage to the people of the middle east than anyone before or since. Peace Envoy-----I don't think so, he should have gone to the HAIGUE and been tried as a war criminal. duckface08
  • Score: 2

4:26pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Rita Jelfs says...

Israel never retaliates proportionately. Israel can afford to go on indefinitely oppressing Palestinians, until the UK, Europe and USA have strong enough backbones to sanction them. The Jewish lobby is too strong so this won't happen.
Israel never retaliates proportionately. Israel can afford to go on indefinitely oppressing Palestinians, until the UK, Europe and USA have strong enough backbones to sanction them. The Jewish lobby is too strong so this won't happen. Rita Jelfs
  • Score: 4

4:40pm Tue 5 Aug 14

mixxer says...

Hopefully this is the thin end of the wedge. The UK Government's guaranteed support of the murderous Israeli regime must end ASAP.
Hopefully this is the thin end of the wedge. The UK Government's guaranteed support of the murderous Israeli regime must end ASAP. mixxer
  • Score: 6

5:04pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Shropshirelad says...

Wondered when this was going to happen in her case specifically but when are other Tories going to have the guts to come straight out with condemning the murderous and genocidal regime of Israel. Baroness Warsi, you have done an honourable and courageous thing for which millions of people will applaud you. You are better off out of that nest of creeping unspeakables. I want to vomit when I hear Cameron or Hammond speaking on the Gaza massacres.
Wondered when this was going to happen in her case specifically but when are other Tories going to have the guts to come straight out with condemning the murderous and genocidal regime of Israel. Baroness Warsi, you have done an honourable and courageous thing for which millions of people will applaud you. You are better off out of that nest of creeping unspeakables. I want to vomit when I hear Cameron or Hammond speaking on the Gaza massacres. Shropshirelad
  • Score: 7

5:25pm Tue 5 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Shropshirelad wrote:
Wondered when this was going to happen in her case specifically but when are other Tories going to have the guts to come straight out with condemning the murderous and genocidal regime of Israel. Baroness Warsi, you have done an honourable and courageous thing for which millions of people will applaud you. You are better off out of that nest of creeping unspeakables. I want to vomit when I hear Cameron or Hammond speaking on the Gaza massacres.
If Hamas fire's rockets at Israel again, I hope Israel flattens all Hamas structures.....and it's Terrorist scum....
[quote][p][bold]Shropshirelad[/bold] wrote: Wondered when this was going to happen in her case specifically but when are other Tories going to have the guts to come straight out with condemning the murderous and genocidal regime of Israel. Baroness Warsi, you have done an honourable and courageous thing for which millions of people will applaud you. You are better off out of that nest of creeping unspeakables. I want to vomit when I hear Cameron or Hammond speaking on the Gaza massacres.[/p][/quote]If Hamas fire's rockets at Israel again, I hope Israel flattens all Hamas structures.....and it's Terrorist scum.... welshmen
  • Score: -4

5:37pm Tue 5 Aug 14

stribli says...

The ME is the birthplace of 3 arab religions judahism , christianity , and islam. Palestine is the ancestral homeland of Palestinian jews ,Palestinian christians,and Palestinian muslims,people such as netenyahu have their own homeland in Poland etc,. Ancient israel has 2000 years separation from the reinvented israel of today which was created in Palestine by mostly illegal immigrants
The ME is the birthplace of 3 arab religions judahism , christianity , and islam. Palestine is the ancestral homeland of Palestinian jews ,Palestinian christians,and Palestinian muslims,people such as netenyahu have their own homeland in Poland etc,. Ancient israel has 2000 years separation from the reinvented israel of today which was created in Palestine by mostly illegal immigrants stribli
  • Score: 9

6:20pm Tue 5 Aug 14

happyguy says...

I was really proud of her today despite being a tory though i also agree with ritajeff the jewish lobby is way too strong.
I was really proud of her today despite being a tory though i also agree with ritajeff the jewish lobby is way too strong. happyguy
  • Score: 6

7:12pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Shropshirelad says...

Welshmen, I determined not to respond to your crass, idiotic ramblings again, but yours above just shows us what you are, a member of the BNP or EDL. You are an Israeli apologist who supports and condones - indeed seemingly delights in deliberately bombing and killing babies and young children (400 to date), women (c800 to date) and other civilians (500 plus to date). These figures against 66 Israelis and 1 Thai killed, (64 of which were members of the reviled IDF). There are no words in the English language that can really describe such a person, you must feel really proud.
Welshmen, I determined not to respond to your crass, idiotic ramblings again, but yours above just shows us what you are, a member of the BNP or EDL. You are an Israeli apologist who supports and condones - indeed seemingly delights in deliberately bombing and killing babies and young children (400 to date), women (c800 to date) and other civilians (500 plus to date). These figures against 66 Israelis and 1 Thai killed, (64 of which were members of the reviled IDF). There are no words in the English language that can really describe such a person, you must feel really proud. Shropshirelad
  • Score: 5

9:13pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Counterview says...

welshmen wrote:
Now take her title off her, six months JSA then stop that....Hope she moves to Gazza, she can join Hamas and help settle their War....
Ludicrous nonsense. If you are accusing Baroness Warsi of having any sympathy with terrorists then have the guts to state your case
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: Now take her title off her, six months JSA then stop that....Hope she moves to Gazza, she can join Hamas and help settle their War....[/p][/quote]Ludicrous nonsense. If you are accusing Baroness Warsi of having any sympathy with terrorists then have the guts to state your case Counterview
  • Score: 4

9:23pm Tue 5 Aug 14

255.255.255.0 says...

welshmen wrote:
Shropshirelad wrote:
Wondered when this was going to happen in her case specifically but when are other Tories going to have the guts to come straight out with condemning the murderous and genocidal regime of Israel. Baroness Warsi, you have done an honourable and courageous thing for which millions of people will applaud you. You are better off out of that nest of creeping unspeakables. I want to vomit when I hear Cameron or Hammond speaking on the Gaza massacres.
If Hamas fire's rockets at Israel again, I hope Israel flattens all Hamas structures.....and it's Terrorist scum....
Why did Hamas fire rockets in the first place u ****? The isrAelis, They killed several people and raided hundreds of homes for the killing of 3 teenagers which had nothing to do with Hama's in the first place.they knew about the whereabouts of the bodies for a week and kept it quiet while they built up momentum to wage a genocide. People like you are scum u f***** sheep s****
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shropshirelad[/bold] wrote: Wondered when this was going to happen in her case specifically but when are other Tories going to have the guts to come straight out with condemning the murderous and genocidal regime of Israel. Baroness Warsi, you have done an honourable and courageous thing for which millions of people will applaud you. You are better off out of that nest of creeping unspeakables. I want to vomit when I hear Cameron or Hammond speaking on the Gaza massacres.[/p][/quote]If Hamas fire's rockets at Israel again, I hope Israel flattens all Hamas structures.....and it's Terrorist scum....[/p][/quote]Why did Hamas fire rockets in the first place u ****? The isrAelis, They killed several people and raided hundreds of homes for the killing of 3 teenagers which had nothing to do with Hama's in the first place.they knew about the whereabouts of the bodies for a week and kept it quiet while they built up momentum to wage a genocide. People like you are scum u f***** sheep s**** 255.255.255.0
  • Score: 2

9:23pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Counterview says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Shropshirelad wrote:
Racist.
Don't really see what was racist about what Welshman wrote. It was more a comment about the hypocrisy of the British class system which demonises working class unemployed people. Why shouldn't a Baroness be compelled to actively seek work once unemployed just like the rest of us 'commoners' have to? Thought our Tory government is insistent that 'we're all in this together', eh?
What are you on about? What has Hamas - a bunch of terrorists - got to do with the British class system? If Welshman's comments were as you suggest, perhaps he could enlighten us as to the relevance of Hamas suggestion.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shropshirelad[/bold] wrote: Racist.[/p][/quote]Don't really see what was racist about what Welshman wrote. It was more a comment about the hypocrisy of the British class system which demonises working class unemployed people. Why shouldn't a Baroness be compelled to actively seek work once unemployed just like the rest of us 'commoners' have to? Thought our Tory government is insistent that 'we're all in this together', eh?[/p][/quote]What are you on about? What has Hamas - a bunch of terrorists - got to do with the British class system? If Welshman's comments were as you suggest, perhaps he could enlighten us as to the relevance of Hamas suggestion. Counterview
  • Score: -2

11:24pm Tue 5 Aug 14

justjude43 says...

Israel guilty of war crimes, targetting civilians. Gaza is the worlds biggest prison Camp. The abused have become the abuser. Cameron and Obama continue to arm Israeli, so are also guilty.
Israel guilty of war crimes, targetting civilians. Gaza is the worlds biggest prison Camp. The abused have become the abuser. Cameron and Obama continue to arm Israeli, so are also guilty. justjude43
  • Score: 0

11:34pm Tue 5 Aug 14

justjude43 says...

Why does Cameron support Israeli, simply the Conservative friens of Israel have donated £10 million to the tories (C4 Documentary despatches). One thing Cameron understands is that every policy and every principle has a price. If you pay the price cameron will dance to your tune.
Why does Cameron support Israeli, simply the Conservative friens of Israel have donated £10 million to the tories (C4 Documentary despatches). One thing Cameron understands is that every policy and every principle has a price. If you pay the price cameron will dance to your tune. justjude43
  • Score: 3

11:00am Wed 6 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Pasted this from the Media, just to explain where she's coming from...read all my post....
Quote:
It was not hard to see this coming. Not just because Warsi’s Twitter activity in recent weeks has mainly consisted of pumping out support for Hamas-run Gaza and berating supporters of Israel for saying things she disagrees with, but also because she has shown a career-long sympathy for Hamas and other Islamic radicals.

In 2006, on an ‘Any Questions’ on BBC Radio 4, Warsi welcomed the election of Hamas in Gaza. This was after the group had killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bomb attacks. Apparently unable to imagine that Hamas governing Gaza might be a problem, she said:

‘I think what’s happened in the Middle East with the election of Hamas is actually an opportunity and I think that’s the way we’ve got to see it. When groups that practice violence are suddenly propelled into power through a democratic process they get responsibility and responsibility can be a tremendously taming factor.’

Well, how wrong she was. Hamas used the opportunity of their poll ‘mandate’ to kill their Palestinian Fatah opponents in Gaza, stage a military coup and never hold another election. They then spent the money sent from abroad in aid of the Palestinian people to arm themselves with weapons to fire at Israel and to construct tunnel complexes to carry out terrorist attacks in Israel on Jewish holy days....un quote...

And just as important if not more important other Muslims killing more Muslims, whey doesn't she complain to the Media about the ten's of thousands of her brother's and sister's and their children getting butchered in Syria and Iraq daily, not a word, WHEY? because in her Muslim world there's no political gain in her condemning ISSI,(Muslims) BUT, there is when non-believers kill Muslims, (Jew's) that's how shallow this Muslim woman is, she should be stripped of her title, she has nothing to offer our Culture, Muslims or our Country, only hate....and a supporter of hate....

Anybody with an ounce of support for the Palestinians want to see an end to this long conflict, both sides have lost thousands, but war is not the way to stop this, I see it as a two state end game, Palestine, Israel hopefully.

When a high profile UK Muslim political figure hands her resignation in that show's her support for the Hamas backed Government of Gazza, that init's self gives Hamas media propaganda to continue down the war route, imagine if Hamas obtained a nuclear weapon, they would use it in a heart beat against Israel....
Pasted this from the Media, just to explain where she's coming from...read all my post.... Quote: It was not hard to see this coming. Not just because Warsi’s Twitter activity in recent weeks has mainly consisted of pumping out support for Hamas-run Gaza and berating supporters of Israel for saying things she disagrees with, but also because she has shown a career-long sympathy for Hamas and other Islamic radicals. In 2006, on an ‘Any Questions’ on BBC Radio 4, Warsi welcomed the election of Hamas in Gaza. This was after the group had killed hundreds of Israelis in suicide bomb attacks. Apparently unable to imagine that Hamas governing Gaza might be a problem, she said: ‘I think what’s happened in the Middle East with the election of Hamas is actually an opportunity and I think that’s the way we’ve got to see it. When groups that practice violence are suddenly propelled into power through a democratic process they get responsibility and responsibility can be a tremendously taming factor.’ Well, how wrong she was. Hamas used the opportunity of their poll ‘mandate’ to kill their Palestinian Fatah opponents in Gaza, stage a military coup and never hold another election. They then spent the money sent from abroad in aid of the Palestinian people to arm themselves with weapons to fire at Israel and to construct tunnel complexes to carry out terrorist attacks in Israel on Jewish holy days....un quote... And just as important if not more important other Muslims killing more Muslims, whey doesn't she complain to the Media about the ten's of thousands of her brother's and sister's and their children getting butchered in Syria and Iraq daily, not a word, WHEY? because in her Muslim world there's no political gain in her condemning ISSI,(Muslims) BUT, there is when non-believers kill Muslims, (Jew's) that's how shallow this Muslim woman is, she should be stripped of her title, she has nothing to offer our Culture, Muslims or our Country, only hate....and a supporter of hate.... Anybody with an ounce of support for the Palestinians want to see an end to this long conflict, both sides have lost thousands, but war is not the way to stop this, I see it as a two state end game, Palestine, Israel hopefully. When a high profile UK Muslim political figure hands her resignation in that show's her support for the Hamas backed Government of Gazza, that init's self gives Hamas media propaganda to continue down the war route, imagine if Hamas obtained a nuclear weapon, they would use it in a heart beat against Israel.... welshmen
  • Score: -4

11:21am Wed 6 Aug 14

welshmen says...

255.255.255.0
Why did Hamas fire rockets in the first place u ****? The isrAelis, They killed several people and raided hundreds of homes for the killing of 3 teenagers which had nothing to do with Hama's in the first place.they knew about the whereabouts of the bodies for a week and kept it quiet while they built up momentum to wage a genocide. People like you are scum u f***** sheep s****,

Well at the moment my sheep has gone to get sheared so I don't have a partner, I could shag your wife, girlfriend, or partner a lot better than you do little dick, once shagged she'll forget the Welshmen....and you'll be shagging fresh air after the Welshmen's been in there....
255.255.255.0 Why did Hamas fire rockets in the first place u ****? The isrAelis, They killed several people and raided hundreds of homes for the killing of 3 teenagers which had nothing to do with Hama's in the first place.they knew about the whereabouts of the bodies for a week and kept it quiet while they built up momentum to wage a genocide. People like you are scum u f***** sheep s****, Well at the moment my sheep has gone to get sheared so I don't have a partner, I could shag your wife, girlfriend, or partner a lot better than you do little dick, once shagged she'll forget the Welshmen....and you'll be shagging fresh air after the Welshmen's been in there.... welshmen
  • Score: -1

11:25am Wed 6 Aug 14

welshmen says...

255.255.255.0 Why did Hamas fire rockets in the first place u ****? The isrAelis, They killed several people and raided hundreds of homes for the killing of 3 teenagers which had nothing to do with Hama's in the first place.they knew about the whereabouts of the bodies for a week and kept it quiet while they built up momentum to wage a genocide. People like you are scum u f***** sheep s****,

Well at the moment my sheep has gone to get sheared so I don't have a partner, I could shag your wife, girlfriend, or partner a lot better than you do little dick, once shagged she'll never forget the Welshmen....and you'll be shagging fresh air after the Welshmen's been in there....
255.255.255.0 Why did Hamas fire rockets in the first place u ****? The isrAelis, They killed several people and raided hundreds of homes for the killing of 3 teenagers which had nothing to do with Hama's in the first place.they knew about the whereabouts of the bodies for a week and kept it quiet while they built up momentum to wage a genocide. People like you are scum u f***** sheep s****, Well at the moment my sheep has gone to get sheared so I don't have a partner, I could shag your wife, girlfriend, or partner a lot better than you do little dick, once shagged she'll never forget the Welshmen....and you'll be shagging fresh air after the Welshmen's been in there.... welshmen
  • Score: -2

12:33pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Counterview says...

You certainly seem to like abusive language. You also convey the impression you don't much care for Muslims. The fact that Baroness Warsi supports Gaza does not mean she supports the Hamas terrorists. Why she should be stripped of her title I do not know. The chance of Hamas ever getting nuclear weapons is near enough impossible - so far as I know they haven't even managed an aeroplane yet.
You certainly seem to like abusive language. You also convey the impression you don't much care for Muslims. The fact that Baroness Warsi supports Gaza does not mean she supports the Hamas terrorists. Why she should be stripped of her title I do not know. The chance of Hamas ever getting nuclear weapons is near enough impossible - so far as I know they haven't even managed an aeroplane yet. Counterview
  • Score: 5

2:00pm Wed 6 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Counterview wrote:
You certainly seem to like abusive language. You also convey the impression you don't much care for Muslims. The fact that Baroness Warsi supports Gaza does not mean she supports the Hamas terrorists. Why she should be stripped of her title I do not know. The chance of Hamas ever getting nuclear weapons is near enough impossible - so far as I know they haven't even managed an aeroplane yet.
Read my post, if you can't ask a ten year old to explain, you only see one alleged abuse on here mine, just like your narrow minded one track hate to Israel....just read and take it in before you engage your brain to return a post....
[quote][p][bold]Counterview[/bold] wrote: You certainly seem to like abusive language. You also convey the impression you don't much care for Muslims. The fact that Baroness Warsi supports Gaza does not mean she supports the Hamas terrorists. Why she should be stripped of her title I do not know. The chance of Hamas ever getting nuclear weapons is near enough impossible - so far as I know they haven't even managed an aeroplane yet.[/p][/quote]Read my post, if you can't ask a ten year old to explain, you only see one alleged abuse on here mine, just like your narrow minded one track hate to Israel....just read and take it in before you engage your brain to return a post.... welshmen
  • Score: -3

3:38pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Counterview says...

Forgive me if I'm wrong - but the language I was referring to came through twice at 11.21 and 11.25 in response to an equally abusive and provocative posting from 255.255.255..0. So far as my " narrow minded one track hate to Israel " is concerned, I'm struggling to find any reference to Israel made on this posting by me. I have concentrated on Baroness Warsi, Gaza, and the Hamas terrorist organisation. Just to make it absolutely clear, I utterly condemn Hamas and any other terrorist organisation.

I can assure you my brain is fully engaged - ready for any more nonsense you may care to post. Perhaps you may engage yours before attempting to spell Gaza properly - just ask any ten year old if you're not sure
Forgive me if I'm wrong - but the language I was referring to came through twice at 11.21 and 11.25 in response to an equally abusive and provocative posting from 255.255.255..0. So far as my " narrow minded one track hate to Israel " is concerned, I'm struggling to find any reference to Israel made on this posting by me. I have concentrated on Baroness Warsi, Gaza, and the Hamas terrorist organisation. Just to make it absolutely clear, I utterly condemn Hamas and any other terrorist organisation. I can assure you my brain is fully engaged - ready for any more nonsense you may care to post. Perhaps you may engage yours before attempting to spell Gaza properly - just ask any ten year old if you're not sure Counterview
  • Score: 1

4:00pm Wed 6 Aug 14

arvs69 says...

Don't worry, Welshman's just a racist, Nazis, Zionist thug here to defend all that Israelis do, destroy. He forgets easily as he suffers amnesia from time to time, what the Israelis did to the then British rulers in Palestine by way of terrorism. The British had to run with their tails between the legs as they couldn't combat Zionist terrorists.
Don't worry, Welshman's just a racist, Nazis, Zionist thug here to defend all that Israelis do, destroy. He forgets easily as he suffers amnesia from time to time, what the Israelis did to the then British rulers in Palestine by way of terrorism. The British had to run with their tails between the legs as they couldn't combat Zionist terrorists. arvs69
  • Score: 0

4:46pm Wed 6 Aug 14

welshmen says...

arvs69 wrote:
Don't worry, Welshman's just a racist, Nazis, Zionist thug here to defend all that Israelis do, destroy. He forgets easily as he suffers amnesia from time to time, what the Israelis did to the then British rulers in Palestine by way of terrorism. The British had to run with their tails between the legs as they couldn't combat Zionist terrorists.
A Nazi liking Israeli thug, ha ha ha, you real, are you a Radical Pig Hater, a Devote Pig Hater, a Moderate Pig Hater, or just a Pig Hater, or a wannabe Terrorist Pig Hater, none of you on this story seem to have any concerns for your brothers and sisters in Syria or Iraq, where their butchered at an alarming rate, 24 times that of Gaza, yet you all moan about Israel first, shame on you. where's your support to stop the slaughter there, the Liberal Elite Media don't report to you about Muslim killing Muslim only about non-believers killing Muslims, thousands of children, thousands of woman, thousands men some lined up in a ditch hands tied and shot, Is their blood not the same as anyone else,


I'am sorry that Palestinians have been killed, I'am sorry Israeli's have been killed, just like the rest of our Country,(If this is your Country) who knows the correct answer to this conflict, we all know that since 1948 the Arabs have tried to wipe out Israel and failed many times, Israel would settle for peace, but unfortunately the Muslim Hamas Terrorists wont, they'll keep on putting Galatians in harms way hoping the Media report on the killing of children in UN schools, I all so hope that the alleged War Crimes commit by both sides are brought to justice at the Hague International Court of Justice in the Netherlands and the guilty hung....
[quote][p][bold]arvs69[/bold] wrote: Don't worry, Welshman's just a racist, Nazis, Zionist thug here to defend all that Israelis do, destroy. He forgets easily as he suffers amnesia from time to time, what the Israelis did to the then British rulers in Palestine by way of terrorism. The British had to run with their tails between the legs as they couldn't combat Zionist terrorists.[/p][/quote]A Nazi liking Israeli thug, ha ha ha, you real, are you a Radical Pig Hater, a Devote Pig Hater, a Moderate Pig Hater, or just a Pig Hater, or a wannabe Terrorist Pig Hater, none of you on this story seem to have any concerns for your brothers and sisters in Syria or Iraq, where their butchered at an alarming rate, 24 times that of Gaza, yet you all moan about Israel first, shame on you. where's your support to stop the slaughter there, the Liberal Elite Media don't report to you about Muslim killing Muslim only about non-believers killing Muslims, thousands of children, thousands of woman, thousands men some lined up in a ditch hands tied and shot, Is their blood not the same as anyone else, I'am sorry that Palestinians have been killed, I'am sorry Israeli's have been killed, just like the rest of our Country,(If this is your Country) who knows the correct answer to this conflict, we all know that since 1948 the Arabs have tried to wipe out Israel and failed many times, Israel would settle for peace, but unfortunately the Muslim Hamas Terrorists wont, they'll keep on putting Galatians in harms way hoping the Media report on the killing of children in UN schools, I all so hope that the alleged War Crimes commit by both sides are brought to justice at the Hague International Court of Justice in the Netherlands and the guilty hung.... welshmen
  • Score: -4

5:13pm Wed 6 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Counterview wrote:
Forgive me if I'm wrong - but the language I was referring to came through twice at 11.21 and 11.25 in response to an equally abusive and provocative posting from 255.255.255..0. So far as my " narrow minded one track hate to Israel " is concerned, I'm struggling to find any reference to Israel made on this posting by me. I have concentrated on Baroness Warsi, Gaza, and the Hamas terrorist organisation. Just to make it absolutely clear, I utterly condemn Hamas and any other terrorist organisation.

I can assure you my brain is fully engaged - ready for any more nonsense you may care to post. Perhaps you may engage yours before attempting to spell Gaza properly - just ask any ten year old if you're not sure
Yes I do forgive you...Nice to know, you"utterly condemn Hamas and any other terrorist organisation".....no
w go and find out what Baroness Warsi said on Radio4, if you think she doesn't support Hamas fine, I believe she does, link up with Shropshirelass he vomits a lot and I mean a lot when anyone says anything not bad about Israel, Ask your self why your heroin was never elected into Government, she failed a couple of times, her path was the Ethnic route, selected for a powerful Muslim voice on the side of Conservatives, she was expected to attract the white collar Muslim vote, like you perhaps, Muslims happy to see a good Muslim Lawyer making a honourable name for second generation Muslims, now she want's more, wonder what the real reason she gave her job up for..... "attempting to spell Gaza properly" as you reprimanded me, that should have been " attempting to spell Gaza correctly....
[quote][p][bold]Counterview[/bold] wrote: Forgive me if I'm wrong - but the language I was referring to came through twice at 11.21 and 11.25 in response to an equally abusive and provocative posting from 255.255.255..0. So far as my " narrow minded one track hate to Israel " is concerned, I'm struggling to find any reference to Israel made on this posting by me. I have concentrated on Baroness Warsi, Gaza, and the Hamas terrorist organisation. Just to make it absolutely clear, I utterly condemn Hamas and any other terrorist organisation. I can assure you my brain is fully engaged - ready for any more nonsense you may care to post. Perhaps you may engage yours before attempting to spell Gaza properly - just ask any ten year old if you're not sure[/p][/quote]Yes I do forgive you...Nice to know, you"utterly condemn Hamas and any other terrorist organisation".....no w go and find out what Baroness Warsi said on Radio4, if you think she doesn't support Hamas fine, I believe she does, link up with Shropshirelass he vomits a lot and I mean a lot when anyone says anything not bad about Israel, Ask your self why your heroin was never elected into Government, she failed a couple of times, her path was the Ethnic route, selected for a powerful Muslim voice on the side of Conservatives, she was expected to attract the white collar Muslim vote, like you perhaps, Muslims happy to see a good Muslim Lawyer making a honourable name for second generation Muslims, now she want's more, wonder what the real reason she gave her job up for..... "attempting to spell Gaza properly" as you reprimanded me, that should have been " attempting to spell Gaza correctly.... welshmen
  • Score: 3

6:19pm Wed 6 Aug 14

Counterview says...

To Welshmen. I'm pleased we are both agreed on Hamas. I accept the word "properly" may also have been defined as "correctly" . So far as Baroness Warsi is concerned, I certainly do not regard her as my heroine. I think you may find that heroin may be more harmful than she has probably ever been.
To Welshmen. I'm pleased we are both agreed on Hamas. I accept the word "properly" may also have been defined as "correctly" . So far as Baroness Warsi is concerned, I certainly do not regard her as my heroine. I think you may find that heroin may be more harmful than she has probably ever been. Counterview
  • Score: 3
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